Joined: July 2012
||Posted: Sep. 27 2012, 14:04
|Quote (Scatterplot @ Sep. 27 2012, 13:35)|
|Yeah.....it sucks doesn't it Sync? In the 60's most of the influencial people who pushed other's music upward or made it themselves, never took music theory or knew anything about recording or production. By the 80's those who had skills at "knobtwisting" were the ones who were upwardly mobile and sought after. They remain sought after today.|
What You mean with that? I dont understand.
I can also delete my opinion posted here if You dont like other than "yes yes its great" but its like ignoring.
But I will troll about "they did not knew music theory either" topic -- I have heard this 110 times!
That there are successful people who did not knew music theory, this is nothing to take a example or admiration unless You are the next Mozart or Björn from ABBA. Also, they were FIRST, and others cant replicate that success becouse the demands are already higher after seeing first ones!
But so far those who say that-- "no theory and practicing and rehearsal" -- I have heard only from those who are lazy. They do not want to learn even by themself, becouse its a damn hard work. So what You do? Just saying "nothing, I just push these buttons and get famous" ...?
They say not becouse they are "talented" or "gifted", but lazy.
What You actually forget is that those musicians before computer-studio era had very limited technology and still they made music, but it was not a resistance, they had opportunities -- all were back then very new.
Nowadays when almost everyone has this kind of technology what was a dream in 80s, it gives opportunities to everyone, yet, there are almost none such opportunities which existed before computer era (especially mp3 codecs). Many will be just a knobtwisters, sample arrangers, DJs... Can be actually totally new genre, but its not my taste.
But that argument "they did not knew music theory either" is not an argument, becouse nowadays people dont have these possibilities which actually were on 60s and 70s. Now the demands are much higher than 40 years ago. Mike Oldfield now could not get a shot if he would be just beginner (or not such huge success), becouse there are many many many this kind of who make music, but back then it was very new. The timeperiod seems to count in this case, but also the place -- Those superstars which I saw and hear about them are still from the past and continuing, but those which are newcomers, are very short time on the stage if they are not from USA.
After this kind of internet time, everything changed and is cheaper and oh yeah, mp3 ! Now try that -- to get that retro contract and royalties how artists were living during 80s. Nope.
Also I would say as it was in Sonicstate or some documentary "before music dies" -- "its very important how you look and what happens on stage. Ray Charles wont get a shot -- he's blind!"
What I tried to say is that -- now it requires much higher skills than the anchestors had in the past if You want to replicate their success and yet You need opportunities, which we have less than in the past.