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Question: Vocaloid Vocals :: Total Votes:52 Poll choices Votes Statistics Yes, they give me the creeps. 14  [26.92%] No, I love them. 17  [32.69%] I like them but bring back Maggie etc... 16  [30.77%] Not sure yet. 5  [9.62%] Guests cannot vote

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CuNimb Group: Members Posts: 222 Joined: July 2003 Posted: Sep. 28 2005, 09:53 How do people feel about the use of synthetic vocals? Will we one day have a synthetic Mike?   -------------- Happy? ha ha ha.... Back to top

Cinos Group: Members Posts: 68 Joined: Aug. 2005 Posted: Sep. 28 2005, 10:07 I have no problem with them. Back to top

Tubularman Group: Awaiting Authorisation Posts: 2304 Joined: June 2004 Posted: Sep. 28 2005, 10:15 I like them but it would be great if he used some real vocals too. I hope he will make a album with some vocals songs. Maybe 5 vocal songs with different artist, maybe maggie or the voice from man in the rain. (heather?) And if he did some short songs (maybe one funny one) And some instrumentals with more lenght. He could take them together and make a complex song. But this Light and shade album is great for me. I like it very much. I play it all day and just love it. -------------- Mike Oldfield M i x e s https://soundcloud.com/tubularman Back to top

DarkenedEdo Group: Musicians Posts: 124 Joined: May 2003 Posted: Sep. 29 2005, 08:57 vocaloid is very simple to use, and the result can be better than what you can listen on light&shade. it's a question of time, and it seems to me that mike has recorded the album running too much. -------------- www.edoardofainello.com :::: www.fayeth.com :::: www.myspace.com/kahman Back to top

timeslip Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: Feb. 2004 Posted: Sep. 29 2005, 10:18 vocaloids anything but easy to use, however the free demo tracks provided when you buy the software sound better than the ones used in L&S But to answer the original question,yes i do like them Back to top

Cinos Group: Members Posts: 68 Joined: Aug. 2005 Posted: Sep. 30 2005, 02:19 Um, I'd like to rephrase my answer... they suck. I like electronic music a lot, but these vocals... they're just not good. (this is, in case the plastic chants in Resolution are an example) Back to top

The Bell(end) Group: Members Posts: 1051 Joined: July 2005 Posted: Oct. 01 2005, 09:28 My mum thought they were ok until I told her it was software not a real person! I like them actually, I think people dislike it because they don't like Mike using all the technology but if you concentrate on the sound alone. They sound great IMO   -------------- When the night's on fi-ya, do you need love's arms to hold yew? :D Back to top

Ugo Group: Members Posts: 5495 Joined: April 2000 Posted: Oct. 01 2005, 18:32 I love 'em. As I said somewhere else, I love 'em for the very fact that they're synthetic. -------------- Ugo C. - a devoted Amarokian Back to top

Ian Too Group: Members Posts: 72 Joined: Aug. 2005 Posted: Oct. 02 2005, 07:36 There's no way Vocaloid could replace professional singers and it would be totally useless to singer songwriters like Aimee Mann or David Gray, but I can see how it would be good for Mike. I was listening to Resolution just now and I'd have no idea how to tell a singer to do that. Then of course, there's finding a singer who could and would put herself through it. I think they're quite limited, but useful. -------------- (-: Ian :-) Currently reading: What Remains to be Discovered by John Maddox Also doing far too much decorating than is good for one Back to top

Deadcalm Group: Awaiting Authorisation Posts: 752 Joined: Nov. 2004 Posted: Oct. 05 2005, 08:40 OK Question ?? Would we all be moaning or praising if Mike had cunningly credited the Vocals to Mystery Guest Vocalists... Would we all of been suckered or would the Robot of been spotted ?? I wouldnt of guessed the "Surfing" tk was vocaloid unless it had been pointed out ....  Plus the Robot dont get Royalties  !! lol Back to top

jeremyroberts Group: Members Posts: 139 Joined: June 2005 Posted: Oct. 07 2005, 16:45 Quote (Deadcalm @ Oct. 05 2005, 08:40) OK Question ?? Would we all be moaning or praising if Mike had cunningly credited the Vocals to Mystery Guest Vocalists... Would we all of been suckered or would the Robot of been spotted ?? I wouldnt of guessed the "Surfing" tk was vocaloid unless it had been pointed out ....  Plus the Robot dont get Royalties  !! lol The vocaloid voices are absolutely not realistic at all... If I hadn't been told I would have thought that it was a human voice going through some special effect, as in Cher's "Believe", but different. And I would have thought: "wow, Mike Oldfield can alter a human voice in a way I've never heard before, that's amazing the way he can use the technology to make his very own sound!" And then someone would tell me "hehe it's not a human, it's one of this crappy talking software on which you can assign notes to make a song" and I would say: "wow, now this really sucks (what? my balls)!"  LOL Back to top

moonchildhippy Group: Members Posts: 1807 Joined: Dec. 2004 Posted: Oct. 07 2005, 18:00 Quote (jeremyroberts @ Oct. 07 2005, 21:45) And then someone would tell me "hehe it's not a human, it's one of this crappy talking software on which you can assign notes to make a song" and I would say: "wow, now this really sucks (what? my balls)!"  LOL My vacuum cleaner really sucks too I must admit before hearing the Vocaloid voices I was a bit skeptical, but having heard L&S they're not as bad as I thought they would be, I voted for the option "I like them but bring back Maggie etc"   -------------- I'm going slightly mad, It finally happened, I'm slightly mad , just very slightly mad If you feel a little glum to Hergest Ridge you should come. I'm challenging  taboos surrounding mental health "Part time hippy" I'M SUPPORTING OUR SOLDIERS BRING OUR TROOPS HOME NOW!! Back to top

Holger Group: Members Posts: 1506 Joined: Feb. 2003 Posted: Oct. 08 2005, 16:01 I'm very much into them. I even like the fact that they don't sound as perfect as they maybe could. This is a pioneering work. I appreciate the oddities that appear in the process. One day in the future, someone will try very hard to reproduce that sound with the state-of-the-art singing software of the year 2112. Back to top

arron11196 Group: Members Posts: 826 Joined: April 2005 Posted: Oct. 08 2005, 16:44 I very much agree that this is pioneering work, and I also personally get the impression that the album has been... composed around the first usage of the 'tool'. -------------- Arron J Eagling Everyone's interpretation is different, and everyone has a right to that opinion. There is no "right" one, I am adding this post to communicate my thoughts to share them with like-minded souls who will be able to comment in good nature. (insert the last 5 mins of Crises here) Back to top

Wayfarer Group: Members Posts: 308 Joined: June 2002 Posted: Oct. 08 2005, 16:57 Quote (CuNimb @ Sep. 28 2005, 15:53) Will we one day have a synthetic Mike?   Something like Max Headroom? Yeap, it'd be fu-fu-fu-funny... -- Wayfarer -------------- My homepage - www.thewayfarer.info My search - www.cannotbefound.com My community - www.taurusiv.net My luthier - www.artluthier.com Back to top

raven4x4x Group: Members Posts: 1535 Joined: Jan. 2002 Posted: Oct. 08 2005, 23:31 I don't mind them at all. I agree that a real singer would probably be better in most cases, but the vocaloids don't creep me out or make me want to set fire to the CD or anything like that. -------------- Thank-you for helping us help you help us all. Back to top

jeremyroberts Group: Members Posts: 139 Joined: June 2005 Posted: Oct. 10 2005, 17:08 It's not Vocaloid mates, it's Cantor. Cantor is a better singer yet   Back to top

The Bell(end) Group: Members Posts: 1051 Joined: July 2005 Posted: Oct. 10 2005, 17:12 Quote (jeremyroberts @ Oct. 10 2005, 22:08) Cantor is a better singer yet   I agree! Oops, better not. Anyway, I am amazed by the realism of certain effects. For example the choir boy effect on 'The Gate'. I really enjoy the use of vocoloid/cantor and it doesn't tire   -------------- When the night's on fi-ya, do you need love's arms to hold yew? :D Back to top

TubularBelle Group: Members Posts: 1487 Joined: April 2004 Posted: Oct. 10 2005, 20:28 The only problem I have with the vocaloids is that they are not articulate, whether real or not, I can't stand it when someone is singing a song and you cannot understand what they are trying to say, if the words are not relevent then don't have any! I think the vocaloids on Mikes album suit most of the songs and I like them in 'the Gate' and all the other tracks except for the 'gurgling' sound of the wailing in Resolution, would have worked better with a real voice. The words in 'Surfing' are too hard to understand and the low voice that says 'Slipstream' gives me the irrits as well. I like the deeper voice in the background in 'Surfing', sounds like the caveman come to pay us a visit. -------------- I hate getting up early. I didn't even realise there were two 6 o'clocks in one day! Back to top

jeremyroberts Group: Members Posts: 139 Joined: June 2005 Posted: Oct. 11 2005, 16:03 I have the exact same problem with badly articulated lyrics. Exact same opinion, but I couldn't write it this way. Back to top

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