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Sonilink Group: Members Posts: 393 Joined: Jan. 2005 Posted: May 04 2005, 11:04 TBII is of cours one of mike's best album but I don't know it is very similar and still so diferant from TBI. I think that this album is more a sequel than an update... what da'ya think about it? -------------- Take the Time Back to top

arron11196 Group: Members Posts: 826 Joined: April 2005 Posted: May 04 2005, 11:30 I've personally always thought that the idea behind Tubular Bells II was to try and convey the same feeling and emotion as the first, even to some extent the same structure, but using different music. -------------- Arron J Eagling Everyone's interpretation is different, and everyone has a right to that opinion. There is no "right" one, I am adding this post to communicate my thoughts to share them with like-minded souls who will be able to comment in good nature. (insert the last 5 mins of Crises here) Back to top

Sir Mustapha Group: Musicians Posts: 2802 Joined: April 2003 Posted: May 04 2005, 12:22 Same structure, definitely. But same emotion? Hmm... I'm not quite sure about that. TBII is happy, sweety and sugary all the way through, and every single note drips with syrup. TB is some of the most haunting, mesmerising, emotionally complex albums I've ever seen. Everything is there: fear, anger, psychosis, childishness, sadness, paranoia, insecurity, culminating with retarded joy. Just my thoughts. I wouldn't say it's a "sequel", though. It's a rewrite. -------------- Check out http://ferniecanto.com.br for all my music, including my latest albums: Don't Stay in the City, Making Amends and Builders of Worlds. Also check my Bandcamp page: http://ferniecanto.bandcamp.com Back to top

hiawatha Group: Members Posts: 2391 Joined: Mar. 2004 Posted: May 04 2005, 13:48 ... a rewrite that still retains the one small quotation from "Joshua Fit the Battle of Jericho" -------------- "In the land of the Dacotahs, Where the Falls of Minnehaha Flash and gleam among the oak-trees, Laugh and leap into the valley." - Song of Hiawatha Back to top

The Big BellEnd Group: Members Posts: 971 Joined: Jan. 2004 Posted: May 04 2005, 14:33 60 minute make-over. -------------- I, ON THE OTHER HAND. AM A VICTIM OF YOUR CARNIVOUROUS LUNAR ACTIVITY. Back to top

olracUK Group: Members Posts: 1683 Joined: June 2003 Posted: May 04 2005, 19:10 With Trevor Horn added "sparkle"... It's TB Jim, but not as we know it. -------------- The answer is 42 - but what is the question? Back to top

raven4x4x Group: Members Posts: 1535 Joined: Jan. 2002 Posted: May 04 2005, 20:13 Quote (arron11196 @ May 05 2005, 00:30) I've personally always thought that the idea behind Tubular Bells II was to try and convey the same feeling and emotion as the first, even to some extent the same structure, but using different music. I would say that Tubular Bells II conveys the opposite emotions as the original, just as Sir M said. ( I don't share Sir M's deep and complete hatred for this album though.   ) I think it's an interesting thing to do, getting an album with the same structure to say completely different things. -------------- Thank-you for helping us help you help us all. Back to top

arron11196 Group: Members Posts: 826 Joined: April 2005 Posted: May 05 2005, 02:30 Quote (Sir Mustapha @ May 04 2005, 12:22) TB is some of the most haunting, mesmerising, emotionally complex albums I've ever seen. Everything is there: fear, anger, psychosis, childishness, sadness, paranoia, insecurity, culminating with retarded joy. Hmm, I've never been able to see how the first TB is dark and moody personally. Perhaps I'm just incredibly optimisitic... -------------- Arron J Eagling Everyone's interpretation is different, and everyone has a right to that opinion. There is no "right" one, I am adding this post to communicate my thoughts to share them with like-minded souls who will be able to comment in good nature. (insert the last 5 mins of Crises here) Back to top

Ugo Group: Members Posts: 5495 Joined: April 2000 Posted: May 05 2005, 08:56 OFF TOPIC!! Quote (olracUK @ May 05 2005, 01:10) ... It's TB Jim, but not as we know it. Oh, please, Andy... do NOT mention that song again if you don't want me to go completely bonkers... I already am, but anyway... -------------- Ugo C. - a devoted Amarokian Back to top

Chicular Group: Members Posts: 240 Joined: Sep. 2004 Posted: May 06 2005, 09:41 Tubular Bells II is definitely a sequel!  If i could compare it to any Film, i would compare it to Terminator 2: Judgment Day.  Terminator 2 is more technologically advanced than T1, it is more sentimental than T1, T1 was Raw and almost like a horror film, however it has the same structure to it with similar scenes, ie the tanker chase near the end of T2 is very similar to the Tunnel chase near end of T1.  In my opinion the best way to make a sequel is to replicate yet add new dimensions. Back to top

Sir Mustapha Group: Musicians Posts: 2802 Joined: April 2003 Posted: May 06 2005, 12:10 I dunno. I remember Mike saying that he applied the idea of movie sequels to TB, by "putting the same characters in a different story". I think he did the complete opposite: he used the same story with completely different characters. To me, that's a rewrite of sorts. It's like someone made a "sequel" of The Exorcist, but instead of having Regan possessed by a demon, we'd have a girl "possessed" by an angel of love and friendship and everyone would love each other and live happily ever after. -------------- Check out http://ferniecanto.com.br for all my music, including my latest albums: Don't Stay in the City, Making Amends and Builders of Worlds. Also check my Bandcamp page: http://ferniecanto.bandcamp.com Back to top

Sonilink Group: Members Posts: 393 Joined: Jan. 2005 Posted: May 07 2005, 10:20 Quote (Sir Mustapha @ May 06 2005, 12:10) I dunno. I remember Mike saying that he applied the idea of movie sequels to TB, by "putting the same characters in a different story". I think he did the complete opposite: he used the same story with completely different characters. To me, that's a rewrite of sorts. It's like someone made a "sequel" of The Exorcist, but instead of having Regan possessed by a demon, we'd have a girl "possessed" by an angel of love and friendship and everyone would love each other and live happily ever after. ... and TBIII would be a instrumantalist "possessed" by an ibizan DJ -------------- Take the Time Back to top

Sir Mustapha Group: Musicians Posts: 2802 Joined: April 2003 Posted: May 07 2005, 13:34 That makes a lot of sense, actually! -------------- Check out http://ferniecanto.com.br for all my music, including my latest albums: Don't Stay in the City, Making Amends and Builders of Worlds. Also check my Bandcamp page: http://ferniecanto.bandcamp.com Back to top

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