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Vinz Group: Members Posts: 253 Joined: Feb. 2000 Posted: Mar. 14 2000, 07:16 In my opinion, Mike's first real ethnic piece is 'The Wind Chimes part 2'. It's a great track with a lot of ethnic vocals. I think that those vocals come from Thaïland or something like that. When you watch the video it's clearly what it seems to be! I once saw a TV-report about a tribe (maybe in Thaïland) who have special songs, sung with their throats... I think we can hear those songs on 'The Wind Chimes'. Can someone help me and explain me what is the meaning of these songs and in which circunstances this tribe sing them ? -------------- Rejoignez la Tubular Mailing List francophone ! http://www.tubular.free.fr/tubular.php Back to top

Vinz Group: Members Posts: 253 Joined: Feb. 2000 Posted: Mar. 16 2000, 03:10 Well, it seems that you need more information. I know that my first intervention was not clear, sorry...But here it is ! You can hear that throat song at 00:05:55 to 00:06:12 and there's a reprise at 00:06:32 to 00:06:49. We can imagine that this is only synthetiser or computer sounds but I assure you that it's not. This is a sound made by human voices ! I'd like to know who are these people and in which circunstances they sing this ! Thank you for any reply ! -------------- Rejoignez la Tubular Mailing List francophone ! http://www.tubular.free.fr/tubular.php Back to top

GMOVJ Group: Members Posts: 273 Joined: Dec. 1999 Posted: Mar. 16 2000, 03:53 Hi Vinz I think I see what you mean. Once again, to be precise it appears here (Amarok player tracklist) in 'Mad Bit' 1 and 2, then some shorter pieces in 'TB mit Thema' : 01:05:54:67 Mad Bit 1 01:06:12:27 Bells 1 01:06:32:00 Mad Bit 2 01:05:15:54 Bells 2 01:07:35:17 Guitars 01:07:52:58 TB, mit Thema I think it's surely be real human voices but, sampled and sequenced with a midi device... But I'm not sure there's a special meening as I don't know if M. Oldfield had knowledge of these Thai tribe when he wrote TWC... If yes, maybe M. Oldfield wanted to imitate this with samples ? Maybe Mary-Carol may help us ? Friendly, GMOVJ -------------- Cheers, GMOVJ [URL=http://tubular.fodplanet.com]http://tubular.fodplanet.com[/URL] - The french speaking mailing list Back to top

Inkanta Group: Admins Posts: 1453 Joined: Feb. 2000 Posted: Mar. 16 2000, 10:33 Will see what I can do, but I can't start on this until sometime next week (somehow have to make it through this weekend without the advantage of time travel!). Mary-Carol -------------- "No such thing as destiny; only choices exist." From:  Moongarden's "Solaris." Back to top

Korgscrew Group: Super Admins Posts: 3511 Joined: Dec. 1999 Posted: Mar. 25 2000, 22:04 Just to confirm that GMOVJ is right (at least I'm pretty sure of it...) - they are real vocals, but sampled, probably using Mike's Fairlight CMI (an early digital sampler/synthesizer/sequencer, used by Mike at least up until Heaven's Open, if not afterwards). Back to top

Vinz Group: Members Posts: 253 Joined: Feb. 2000 Posted: April 12 2000, 08:06 Well, it seems that nobody knows... Too Bad... Damned me ! If only I could remember what this TV-report was talking about... -------------- Rejoignez la Tubular Mailing List francophone ! http://www.tubular.free.fr/tubular.php Back to top

Unregistered Posted: April 12 2000, 17:27 I think I can help on the "Wind Chimes" chant. Those vocal sounds are part of a dramatic presentation called the "Kecak," from the Indonesian island of Bali (which I seem to recall Mike visited shortly before recording "Islands"). In the Kecak, 100 or more men and boys sit in concentric circles around a flame. They sway back and forth, wave their arms and sing music which seems like a series of sounds, hisses and more conventional melodies. Those sounds which show up in "The Wind Chimes Part 2" are supposed to imitate the sounds of monkeys chattering in the trees. The Kecak is sometimes done on its own, sometimes as part of a semi-staged drama (with actors, dances, costumes, etc.) portraying scenes from the Indian epic "Ramayana." I think I read that Mike recorded kecak, gamelan, and other music in Bali and then used the Fairlight to edit those sounds for his own use. You can find more details about Kecak on the Web; part of a Kecak performance also shows up in the film "Baraka" from a few years ago. Hope this helps. Back to top

Vinz Group: Members Posts: 253 Joined: Feb. 2000 Posted: April 13 2000, 04:25 Yes ! That's it ! Thank you Chris ! Have you got some adresses on the web to propose me ? -------------- Rejoignez la Tubular Mailing List francophone ! http://www.tubular.free.fr/tubular.php Back to top

GMOVJ Group: Members Posts: 273 Joined: Dec. 1999 Posted: April 20 2000, 08:23 Chris M. wrote : "Those vocal sounds are part of a dramatic presentation called the "Kecak," from the Indonesian island of Bali (which I seem to recall Mike visited shortly before recording "Islands" (...) "I think I read that Mike recorded kecak, gamelan, and other music in Bali and then used the Fairlight to edit those sounds for his own use." And we can say that he visited Bali and record "Kecak" before 1984, 'cause if you listen 'Bones' (B side of the 12'' maxi Vinyl To France, so 4 years (before Islands !!!) you will hear 3:17 of Bali rythm and Kecak ! ('Bones' is also published in 1993 on 'Moonlight Shadow CD single'...) You will find all part of TWC Part2 ! http://www.geo.uu.nl/~arutten/MOCollection.html Thank you for that url Vinz ;-) Bye GMOVJ -------------- Cheers, GMOVJ [URL=http://tubular.fodplanet.com]http://tubular.fodplanet.com[/URL] - The french speaking mailing list Back to top

Vinz Group: Members Posts: 253 Joined: Feb. 2000 Posted: April 21 2000, 05:19 GMOVJ, You're welcome, if you want something else, just ask ! -------------- Rejoignez la Tubular Mailing List francophone ! http://www.tubular.free.fr/tubular.php Back to top

Jammer Group: Members Posts: 641 Joined: April 2000 Posted: Aug. 28 2000, 20:26 You also missed out the bit at the beginning of TWC Pt II. The tin whistle and bass drum section has bits of the Kecak chanting as well Because I like working out these things musically the rhythm of the so called 'mad-bit' (not nearly as mad as the mad bit on MFTB!) is quite complex. I think it goes like this: (semiquaver beats) line 1: sharp 'yeh' or 'heh' sound line 2: sharp 'yeheh' or 'hehu' sound marked by two semiquavers for the sylables line 3: slightly longer sung hini-like tone line 4: orchestral bass drum dampened with cloth x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x- -xx-xx-xx-xx-xx-xx-xx-xx-xx-xx-x ------------------x------------- x-----x-x-------x-----x--x--x--- Back to top

Jammer Group: Members Posts: 641 Joined: April 2000 Posted: Aug. 28 2000, 20:31 Oh, and talking about Gamelan. I've played on Gamelan instruments. I have a strong feeling that the bell sound at the end of Woodhenge is actually a gamelan kenong (pronouced ker-nong, I'm not making it up! How do you spell it?) Read the post in the Platinum section Back to top

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