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Bluepeter Group: Members Posts: 10 Joined: May 2003 Posted: June 19 2004, 00:21 geez... the fact of replying to that subject should give at least for the people who know me from elsewhere how "phenomenal" Amork can be .... And, yes, there is a Vinyl release of Amork, though i hardly stand getting up and switching sides when it starts to get interesting   Can't listen to it every day, but just reading that threat something irresistable makes me to sleepwalk over to my CD-folders....   Back to top

Holger Group: Members Posts: 1506 Joined: Feb. 2003 Posted: June 19 2004, 06:38 Hehe, right - I found it on vinyl a while back but I haven't listened to it once yet! Amarok is the one album that is definitely better on CD... Back to top

timshen Group: Members Posts: 684 Joined: Mar. 2001 Posted: June 19 2004, 11:57 Yep - reading this thread (or is it 'threat' as Bluepeter put it?) definitely made me reach into my CD collection & put Amarok on whilst working on my computer - didn't get much work done as I relaxed back on my chair ,closed my eyes and enjoyed the ride! -------------- Expect Great Things. Attempt Great Things. Back to top

Sir Mustapha Group: Musicians Posts: 2802 Joined: April 2003 Posted: June 19 2004, 13:06 There are two things I'm dying to find: an LP of Tubular Bells and one of Amarok. What's worse is that I've seen a TB LP already, but couldn't buy it. I suppose the Amarok one is too rare, but if I ever saw one, I'd have it! Perhaps the biggest inconvenient is not the switching sides thing, but the fact that it's so long. Squeezing 30 minutes of music in each side is not trivial, and the quality must be rather poor. But who cares? I'd still buy it anyway. It should definitely be a unique experience. -------------- Check out http://ferniecanto.com.br for all my music, including my latest albums: Don't Stay in the City, Making Amends and Builders of Worlds. Also check my Bandcamp page: http://ferniecanto.bandcamp.com Back to top

hiawatha Group: Members Posts: 2391 Joined: Mar. 2004 Posted: June 19 2004, 15:22 Are LP's of TB hard to find? I've not been seeking them out, having one from way back then, but I recall when I have checked Oldfield sections in used record bins, I've always seen TB there. -------------- "In the land of the Dacotahs, Where the Falls of Minnehaha Flash and gleam among the oak-trees, Laugh and leap into the valley." - Song of Hiawatha Back to top

Brewer Group: Members Posts: 60 Joined: July 2002 Posted: June 19 2004, 19:53 Vinyl TB. I wore out so many of them (3 actually) that i have 4 TB's on vinly. 2 of which have the original Virgin label. The other two have the later green/red virgin label. Actually as Islands was the first MO album released after the invention of CD, all the albums prior to that i have on vinly. Including the Quad Boxed and Quad Exposed. -------------- Maker of MOs favourite beverage No trees were harmed in the creation and sending of this message. However, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced Back to top

Inkanta Group: Admins Posts: 1453 Joined: Feb. 2000 Posted: June 20 2004, 10:44 TOBY wrote: Quote There is (or rather was) certainly no influence from the internet, after all Amarok came out and flopped in 1990. I wonder what percentage of sales has occurred since the advent of the Internet? I'd never have known about Amarok without it. Perhaps last year I'd have stumbled across it in a record shop in Berlin or London, but without Amarok, I might not have even been in a record shop. Anyhow, one summer morning, nearly seven years after its release, Amarok arrived in the mail from a friend in Germany. The only thing I knew about Amarok was that it was supposed to be one of Mike's major works and it hadn't been released here. I found the thing weird, funny, magickal, beautiful, and aggressive in spots. Ommadawn is a very emotional trip with resolution at the end, and Amarok is similar to this, IMHO, with some anger management work going on.  I've been listening to it quite a bit lately, of sorts. BTW, did anyone listen to the vinyl before the CD? If yes, are you able to listen to the CD seamlessly? I'm afraid that I'd be thinking, "Oh! That's the point where the vinyl has to be flipped over" each time!   -------------- "No such thing as destiny; only choices exist." From:  Moongarden's "Solaris." Back to top

Sir Mustapha Group: Musicians Posts: 2802 Joined: April 2003 Posted: June 20 2004, 11:16 Quote (Inkanta @ June 20 2004, 10:44) BTW, did anyone listen to the vinyl before the CD? If yes, are you able to listen to the CD seamlessly? I'm afraid that I'd be thinking, "Oh! That's the point where the vinyl has to be flipped over" each time!   I get that feeling at any time I'm listening to any "two sided" album on CD - even the ones I have never, ever heard on vinyl! Albums like those are great because you can pause the CD in the middle if you need to go and get a cup of coffee, or anything. I hate the way they remastered the Moody Blues albums, crossfading the side one closer into the side two opener. I absolutely hate that! -------------- Check out http://ferniecanto.com.br for all my music, including my latest albums: Don't Stay in the City, Making Amends and Builders of Worlds. Also check my Bandcamp page: http://ferniecanto.bandcamp.com Back to top

Holger Group: Members Posts: 1506 Joined: Feb. 2003 Posted: June 20 2004, 13:13 BTW, I've been thinking for quite a while... I don't believe this "least sold" thing. The only thing I remember reading from Mike himself is that it was "probably" his least selling album. Maybe it was the one with the poorest initial sales, but with all the cult, or at least semi-cult status the album has gathered by now, I find it hard to believe that it would have sold less than Heaven's Open or Guitars or maybe even Voyager... Back to top

Inkanta Group: Admins Posts: 1453 Joined: Feb. 2000 Posted: June 20 2004, 14:09 Quote (Holger @ June 20 2004, 12:13) BTW, I've been thinking for quite a while... I don't believe this "least sold" thing. The only thing I remember reading from Mike himself is that it was "probably" his least selling album. ... I find it hard to believe that it would have sold less than Heaven's Open or Guitars or maybe even Voyager... It would be interesting to do a current analysis of Mike's record sales, worldwide. Anyone need a class project? :-) This is the type of research one could possibly pay Billboard to do, or perform herself/himself if there were access to the right resources. Ideally, the information would be great in a spreadsheet that could be sorted by country (or at least where the top 10 were and "other"), continents, year, title, other??? Don't musicians or their managers track this type of thing? Regarding Voyager, in that it enjoyed an extensive release and was up for a Grammy nomination (New Age), probably more copies were sold. That tends to be the work from which US National Public Radio extracts sound bytes for some of its news programming, so it continues to get exposure here. -------------- "No such thing as destiny; only choices exist." From:  Moongarden's "Solaris." Back to top

imhotep Group: Members Posts: 92 Joined: Jan. 2007 Posted: Nov. 23 2007, 11:08 Interesting to read what you people have to say about this. I just bought the album and I'm listening to it for the first time right now! Weird huh? Back to top

Sweetpea Group: Members Posts: 1476 Joined: April 2007 Posted: Nov. 24 2007, 15:26 Quote (imhotep @ Nov. 23 2007, 11:08) I just bought the album and I'm listening to it for the first time right now! And what did you think of it, imhotep? *imagines befuddled expressions, involuntary twitching, and maybe a 'WTF?' or two* Have you listened for a second time? -------------- "I'm no physicist, but technically couldn't Mike both be with the horse and be flying through space at the same time? (On account of the earth's orbit around the Sun and all that). So it seems he never had to make the choice after all. I bet he's kicking himself now." - clotty Back to top

moonchildhippy Group: Members Posts: 1807 Joined: Dec. 2004 Posted: Nov. 24 2007, 17:43 I've been trying to get into Amarok since December '04.  I did hear Amarok was Ommadawn II, and I love Ommadawn, but Amarok I can't get into.  I guess this happened as I was driving when I first tried to listen to Amarok, expecting it to be similar in style to Ommadawn. I nearly crashed my car, but luckily I was in a 30mph zone when that happened.   Try as I might , but I just can't get into Amarok, maybe I was expecting another ommadawn but found something completely different   . -------------- I'm going slightly mad, It finally happened, I'm slightly mad , just very slightly mad If you feel a little glum to Hergest Ridge you should come. I'm challenging  taboos surrounding mental health "Part time hippy" I'M SUPPORTING OUR SOLDIERS BRING OUR TROOPS HOME NOW!! Back to top

Matt Group: Admins Posts: 1186 Joined: Nov. 2002 Posted: Nov. 24 2007, 18:13 Weird how you can become so interested in how other people are going to react to a piece of music. I would also love to know what Imhotep thought of Amarok. And moonchildhippy, I love that you are still trying to connect with Amarok. That feeling that there is something you are missing that others already *get* (I have the same with ommadawn. I know others love it but I don't get it yet    ). -------------- "I say I say I say I say, what's got three bottles and five eyes and no legs and two wheels" Back to top

captainjjb Group: Members Posts: 310 Joined: Feb. 2006 Posted: Nov. 24 2007, 18:36 It has aged very badly indeed - I think it is one of his worst albums of all.  An interesting experiment, but I hope he doesn't repeat it. Back to top

imhotep Group: Members Posts: 92 Joined: Jan. 2007 Posted: Nov. 24 2007, 19:34 Quote (Sweetpea @ Nov. 24 2007, 15:26) Quote (imhotep @ Nov. 23 2007, 11:08) I just bought the album and I'm listening to it for the first time right now! And what did you think of it, imhotep? *imagines befuddled expressions, involuntary twitching, and maybe a 'WTF?' or two* Have you listened for a second time? I have still only listened to it once all the way through. I had heard the 'Ommadawn type percussion section' on various compilations before and I really like that part. I like other sections too but I have to listen a couple of more times to digest it all. Sometimes it sounds like background sounds for a trippy film. I'll get back to it soon. Back to top

Ebony Group: Members Posts: 172 Joined: June 2007 Posted: Nov. 24 2007, 19:42 Quote (captainjjb @ Nov. 24 2007, 23:36) It has aged very badly indeed - I think it is one of his worst albums of all.  An interesting experiment, but I hope he doesn't repeat it. What makes you say that? Personally I think it's one of his best.  So incredible in its seamless disconnection, and it can always put me in a good mood (and if it can do that, it must be good by my reckoning! )   Back to top

Sweetpea Group: Members Posts: 1476 Joined: April 2007 Posted: Nov. 25 2007, 14:22 Quote (captainjjb @ Nov. 24 2007, 18:36) It has aged very badly indeed - I think it is one of his worst albums of all. What do you mean by "aged very badly", captainjjb? If you mean that Amarok is 'dated', I disagree - only the Thatcheresque monologue marks the piece as being of it's time. But perhaps you only meant that the album's appeal for you has lessened dramatically through the years? -------------- "I'm no physicist, but technically couldn't Mike both be with the horse and be flying through space at the same time? (On account of the earth's orbit around the Sun and all that). So it seems he never had to make the choice after all. I bet he's kicking himself now." - clotty Back to top

The Big BellEnd Group: Members Posts: 971 Joined: Jan. 2004 Posted: Nov. 25 2007, 15:38 oh it's dateless alright. -------------- I, ON THE OTHER HAND. AM A VICTIM OF YOUR CARNIVOUROUS LUNAR ACTIVITY. Back to top

Tati The Sentinel Group: Members Posts: 3360 Joined: Feb. 2002 Posted: Nov. 25 2007, 16:09 Like I once said before,Amarok sums perfectly Mike's personality,not only musically   -------------- "But it's always the outsider, the black sheep, that becomes the blockbuster." - Mike Oldfield, 2014 "I remember feeling that I'd been judged unfairly and that I was going to prove them wrong." - Peter Davison, 2011 Back to top

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