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Korgscrew Group: Super Admins Posts: 3511 Joined: Dec. 1999 Posted: Oct. 28 2000, 22:09 This is something I've been thinking over for a while, and I thought I'd open it up for discussion... We've already gone crazy over the 'lyrics' that turn up in part 2 of HR, but...I'm wondering who's singing them. It just sounds rather masculine to me... (And you know something...the singing sounds a bit like Steve Hillage :P) Back to top

Ugo Group: Members Posts: 5495 Joined: April 2000 Posted: Oct. 29 2000, 05:53 According to the (original) sleevenotes [should we believe 'em? ] the voices are by Clodagh Simmonds (Symonds?) and Sally Oldfield...same as on Ommadawn. IMHO it sounds masculine because Ms Simmonds (Symonds?) has a very deep voice...listen to her on the "Sondela" bits of Amarok. P.S. Never heard that Hillage could sing. -------------- Ugo C. - a devoted Amarokian Back to top

Korgscrew Group: Super Admins Posts: 3511 Joined: Dec. 1999 Posted: Oct. 30 2000, 18:17 I agree it could be her - the bit she sings on Ommadawn sounds similarly masculine. But maybe not quite so much - that was what I was trying to decide... Part of the reason why I say this is because I took a listen to a Tom Newman track and the voice sounded quite similar. It's probably co-incidence and I should have no reason to doubt that it's Clodagh, etc etc. But it still makes me think P.S. Don't ask too much about Hillage, else it'll end up with you listening to his music...and we don't want that to happen, do we? Back to top

Dervish_D Group: Members Posts: 53 Joined: Feb. 2001 Posted: Feb. 06 2001, 03:01 Listen to Amarok 33:15 ? The masculine voice singing "toll,toll,toll", isn´t it the one on HR? Don´t know exactly... Could this be Clodagh Simonds? Back to top

Ugo Group: Members Posts: 5495 Joined: April 2000 Posted: Mar. 05 2001, 17:48 Dervish...that voice actually sings "torn, torn, torn" and to me it sounds really too masculine to be Clodagh. After my first listening of it, I actually thought it was Mike... If it's really Clodagh, then her voice has undergone something like a pitch-shifting, i.e. it has been slowed down. [Korgscrew: pitch-shifting and speed-changing of voices was already done digitally in 1989...Amarok came out in 1990...it was no more like in the old days. ] -------------- Ugo C. - a devoted Amarokian Back to top

Dervish_D Group: Members Posts: 53 Joined: Feb. 2001 Posted: Mar. 05 2001, 17:58 Actually two weeks before I still believed Clodagh is a man... Back to top

rosko Group: Members Posts: 184 Joined: April 2000 Posted: Mar. 06 2001, 07:29 Clodagh Simmonds a man????!!!!! Next you'll be saying that Jon Anderson's a woman!!!!!!!!! I prefer to appreciate how unique these singers sound rather than fuss over what gender they sound like!! Back to top

Dervish_D Group: Members Posts: 53 Joined: Feb. 2001 Posted: Mar. 06 2001, 17:51 No, don´t get me wrong... I just wasn´t sure about the name because I haven´t heared a similar one before... Back to top

Korgscrew Group: Super Admins Posts: 3511 Joined: Dec. 1999 Posted: Mar. 06 2001, 17:56 Thanks for the info Ugo, but...why are you telling me? I first came into contact with an ultra harmoniser a fair while ago... Back to top

Ugo Group: Members Posts: 5495 Joined: April 2000 Posted: Mar. 06 2001, 18:32 Korgscrew: I was telling you that because of all the fuss that you and I and some other people created over the Sana Rosana voice in TII, on my Singers in FMO topic. You said it was vocoded, I replied it was slowed down, someone else replied that this couldn't be done in 1982 [that's what "old days" in my previous post refers to... ] because changing the speed of a tape would create a bad detuning effect on the voice, and you, if I remember it well, agreed with this last reply. A very big mess . So I thought that, in this case, I'd better get straight on what I meant since the beginning... P.S. Sorry, this is not meant as a rant at you. I'm joking. I know you're extremely precise. -------------- Ugo C. - a devoted Amarokian Back to top

Ugo Group: Members Posts: 5495 Joined: April 2000 Posted: Mar. 06 2001, 18:40 By the way: I don't think that in 1982 (or, as long as it matters, in 1974), changing the speed of a tape with vocals would sound bad. The Beatles did it lots of times back in the 60s, and there are some 70s songs by Lucio Battisti [an Italian 70s-80s singer-songwriter, who was very famous down here ] using similar effects on his voice, all done with tapes and studio filters, and they all sound very good. -------------- Ugo C. - a devoted Amarokian Back to top

Korgscrew Group: Super Admins Posts: 3511 Joined: Dec. 1999 Posted: Mar. 11 2001, 20:48 It all depends how much you slow it down by. There comes a point where it doesn;t work any more. Of course, there does with digital at the moment, unless you use one of the latest devices or plug ins which are a bit better at it. But this is a bit off topic really Back to top

qjamesfloyd Group: Members Posts: 1351 Joined: April 2001 Posted: April 06 2014, 09:10 I guess the singer in question was Clodagh then? It was in the Elements sleeve notes. Back to top

Covenant Group: Members Posts: 117 Joined: Jan. 2009 Posted: April 08 2014, 07:50 I always assumed it was MIKE! (I'm positive it's Mike doing the Amarok parts discussed above) Back to top

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