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dM Flimp Group: Members Posts: 47 Joined: July 2006 Posted: July 07 2006, 13:17 i agree -------------- Kraftwerk Wir fahr'n fahr'n fahr'n auf der Autobahn. Vor uns liegt ein weites Tal, Die Sonne scheint mit Glitzerstrahl. Back to top

Sysiyo Group: Members Posts: 245 Joined: Feb. 2003 Posted: July 10 2006, 12:11 Going by the text-book definition of "ambient music", I'd say Mike has never made any real ambient music, so in that way the question does fall off it's mark. However, if by "ambient music" we're referring to stuff like Tr3s Lunas and the "Light" part of Light + Shade, then I'd say pretty strongly that he should move away from that style and into something more dynamic. Back to top

glasgow_tubular Group: Members Posts: 215 Joined: July 2006 Posted: July 15 2006, 11:48 I'd like less of the woman with the weird lips in the tbIII dvd at london. she annoys me slightly     Is it just me? -------------- www.myspace.com/allaroundmyhat Back to top

Tubularman Group: Awaiting Authorisation Posts: 2304 Joined: June 2004 Posted: July 15 2006, 12:38 pepsi? if it is, i agree she totally destroy mike's image. Makes it all look like a party (and also the sound include) I WANT MAGGIE BACK!!   -------------- Mike Oldfield M i x e s https://soundcloud.com/tubularman Back to top

TOBY Group: Members Posts: 1562 Joined: May 2002 Posted: July 15 2006, 13:13 Quote (Tubularman @ July 15 2006, 12:38) pepsi? if it is, i agree she totally destroy mike's image. Makes it all look like a party (and also the sound include) I WANT MAGGIE BACK!!   She makes it look like a party??? Is that not the point? Other than Morrisey I thought all good  pop music concerts were parties. You can say what you like about the TB3 premier concert but it was way better than the TB2 premier show here in Edinburgh (where I almost fell asleep) Never has Mike's music looked and sounded more sexy than in Horseguards Parade. It's a shame he didn't develope that side to his live music more in the 90's.   Back to top

DanishDonJuan Group: Members Posts: 137 Joined: Sep. 2003 Posted: July 15 2006, 16:58 Quote (Alan D) Quote if you think Mike Oldfield is a good pop musician, then it makes sense for him to listen to his fans and give them what they want. If you think he's a great artist then he has no business taking into account his fans' wishes at all. And if he is driven to make music that you label 'ambient' (whatever it really is, and whatever we 'fans' think of it) then that's the music he must make. Great comments by Alan D & arron11196 I agree. I for one though think Mike is both a good pop musician and great artist. I therefore think he SHOULD listen to his fans, but still do his own thing, and not necessarily follow them. After all his fame and musical freedom has become greater because of his many fans, but most love him for his originality. I thought Discovery was excellent, though not a big fan of Earth Moving. I loved Amarok but not as much Voyager. To me Mike is the standard which artists should be measured, and I respect him for doing his own thing. I do miss some of the dynamic deep emotional music that he made in the 70's and 80's though. I like his new stuff too, but I hope his music would take us somewhere else soon. -------------- If every road we traveled were the easy, we would be weak, and would eventually think every road difficult. If every road we traveled tough, we would be strong and eventually think no road to be difficult. Its the tough road that leads to happiness. A smooth sea never made a great sailor. Back to top

DanishDonJuan Group: Members Posts: 137 Joined: Sep. 2003 Posted: July 15 2006, 16:59 I have never heard Mike's music descriped as "Ambient" before. Is there other known artist under this music category? -------------- If every road we traveled were the easy, we would be weak, and would eventually think every road difficult. If every road we traveled tough, we would be strong and eventually think no road to be difficult. Its the tough road that leads to happiness. A smooth sea never made a great sailor. Back to top

TOBY Group: Members Posts: 1562 Joined: May 2002 Posted: July 15 2006, 20:11 Quote (DanishDonJuan @ July 15 2006, 16:59) I have never heard Mike's music descriped as "Ambient" before. Is there other known artist under this music category? Ambient is an entire music genre, there are and were tons of ambient artists out there, The Orb being a classic example of an ambient band. As a genre it was arguably at its peak in the early 90's and generally stemmed directly from dance music, its not a term I would ever associate with any of Mike's work, 'chill out' would better describe what Mike does these days. I think its widely acknowledged Brian Eno was first musician to coin the term 'ambient' though I may be wrong. U.F.Orb by the Orb is probably the greatest ambient album ever released, and the track Blue Room on that album is still thought by most  as probably the greatest piece of ambient music ever writen. Track it down, though don't expect melody, its all about 'atmosphere' As for Mike setting the standard by which all artists should be judged. His focussed technical musicianship has certainly set a standard for sure, and in the 70's he certainly stood for a lot of creative purity but once you start writing albums like Earth Moving that were blatantly made to get in the charts and make money all artistic purity goes out the window. Though to be fair on Mike there is the other side of the argument which is that Virgin made him do it. Still I lost a lot of artistic respect for him when he did TB2 (let alone 3) There are other musicians out there of his vintage like Peter Gabriel and David Gilmour who I've got a lot more respect for artistically, these days anyway. Back to top

glasgow_tubular Group: Members Posts: 215 Joined: July 2006 Posted: Aug. 06 2006, 19:02 Quote (Tubularman @ July 15 2006, 12:38) pepsi? if it is, i agree she totally destroy mike's image. Makes it all look like a party (and also the sound include) I WANT MAGGIE BACK!!   Just found this thread again after getting completely lost in the forum. Is her name pepsi? I think she ruins it aswell. with the big feather scart and shouting "come on". she does however put some humour to it i suppose. Does she do the voice for man in the rain? -------------- www.myspace.com/allaroundmyhat Back to top

Guru Meditation Group: Members Posts: 55 Joined: May 2003 Posted: Aug. 07 2006, 17:02 It would be good indeed if Oldfield would make something like from 70-ies. But the problem is not in "ambient" orientation (that therm was always a bit fake anyway) - it is in the fact that he doesn't seem to have anything new to say these days (and who does?). If you are bothered with his more electronic orchestration these days - well I am not, I am totaly for it. I would only like more real music from him... Light and Shade were O.K. but nothing more than that. I think Oldfield will turn his attention on rerecording his old works for surround sound, and it's not a bad decision at all considering that you can't make nothing new and exciting these days Back to top

Wayfarer Group: Members Posts: 308 Joined: June 2002 Posted: Aug. 07 2006, 19:23 Quote (Guru Meditation @ Aug. 07 2006, 23:02) I would only like more real music from him... Light and Shade were O.K. but nothing more than that. Yeap, just one of this kind is enough for me too! Btw... Guru Meditation? Hey, are you too an Amiga user? -- Wayfarer -------------- My homepage - www.thewayfarer.info My search - www.cannotbefound.com My community - www.taurusiv.net My luthier - www.artluthier.com Back to top

Quicksilver Group: Members Posts: 85 Joined: July 2005 Posted: Aug. 08 2006, 06:45 Quote (Guru Meditation @ Aug. 07 2006, 17:02) ...you can't make nothing new and exciting these days Well, if there is someone who can do that, I think is Oldfield   Back to top

glasgow_tubular Group: Members Posts: 215 Joined: July 2006 Posted: Aug. 08 2006, 10:02 I think mike and enigma should do something. would make it a bit ambiant i suppose but interesting at the same time. -------------- www.myspace.com/allaroundmyhat Back to top

TOBY Group: Members Posts: 1562 Joined: May 2002 Posted: Aug. 08 2006, 14:03 Pepsi Demacque was the singer who sang with Mike on all his live stuff 98-2000. Say what you like about her but she's a mega famous and highly regarded session singer having done work for tons of people besides Mike. To be honest i don't think her voice suited Man in the Rain or Moonlight Shadow but she absolutely made Shadow on the Wall her own, she gave an amazing performance really bringing that song to life in a much more smooth soulful way than the album version. Guru Meditation. I'm sorry but I can't think of anything worse than the idea of Mike rerecording all his old works for 5.1. I don't mind him remixing them in 5.1 but rerecording them no way, anyway he won't because there's need. And as for nobody having anything new to say I'm sorry but thats bollocks. I'm hearing great new music all the time by artists that have a lot to say. And I still think Mike has a lot to say, just not in the bland Cafe Del Mar Enigma type musak he's produced recently. What puzzles me is why he stayed with it for so long when the rest of the world including a lot of his fans were listening to something else. Back to top

Quicksilver Group: Members Posts: 85 Joined: July 2005 Posted: Aug. 09 2006, 06:41 Quote (glasgow_tubular @ Aug. 08 2006, 10:02) I think mike and enigma should do something. would make it a bit ambiant i suppose but interesting at the same time. Mike and Michel Cretu collaborated in one song of the album Islands: The Time has Come. Back to top

glasgow_tubular Group: Members Posts: 215 Joined: July 2006 Posted: Aug. 09 2006, 09:12 Pepsi was an alright singer. I just hated the way she pranced about the stage. Cool didnt know mike already made a song with michel cretu. -------------- www.myspace.com/allaroundmyhat Back to top

David Mar Group: Members Posts: 457 Joined: Oct. 2001 Posted: Sep. 02 2006, 04:47 I wish Mike would keep up the multiintrumental albums instead of just keyboards and guitars. Back to top

Iksion Group: Members Posts: 212 Joined: Sep. 2006 Posted: Sep. 30 2006, 04:41 If you ask me,i think what ever Mike start to play it will be unique. Pop,ambient or rock...it all have Mikes tone. Mystery,so strong emotions like no other musitions. Music is Mikes world not ours. We canot change it...Mike is a simphony of the distant world -------------- Im crazy old man, Im dressed in red, I drink sky like honey, enough i have said. Back to top

Piltdownboy on horseback 22 Group: Members Posts: 1545 Joined: Sep. 2005 Posted: Sep. 30 2006, 06:45 I'm not sure if Mike will move away from ambient. I think he does, and I think that the new album with long instrumental pieces, in 2008 or so, will be the best he's done in 10 or maybe 15 years!!! So I'm really looking forward to that   -------------- "And now we're going to play Platinum!" Back to top

Iksion Group: Members Posts: 212 Joined: Sep. 2006 Posted: Sep. 30 2006, 15:39 2008? Man,thet is far away How do you now thet his making a new album with long instrumental pices? -------------- Im crazy old man, Im dressed in red, I drink sky like honey, enough i have said. Back to top

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