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Jammer Group: Members Posts: 643 Joined: April 2000 Posted: April 13 2000, 17:26 Does anybody know the explainations to some of the section names on the list: roses scot hoover lion boat green green tv am *** preclax (Africa I) baker (Africa II)? I think I know that didlybom is because of the rhythm played on different instruments and russian is because of a beep sound which sounds like a time bomb (a stereotype). I think green green is because it sounds natural-like with the pads and the 'torn' lyrics are to do with conserving the environment (???!) and TV am might be to do with the morning program on British ITV which was on around 1990 before GMTV Does anyone also know why on the rough notes in the sleeve in the top right corner of the fairytale pages it says 'ommadawn is 6 mins want it to be 5.20'? Another thing that I spotted although it isn't very helpful is in small writing nect to a crossing out on the centre pages Mike's wrote 'real sploj' Back to top

Korgscrew Group: Super Admins Posts: 3511 Joined: Dec. 1999 Posted: April 15 2000, 22:16 A few ideas: Hoover - Mike used a hoover to make bagpipe drone noises on his original tubular bells 'demo'. There's a hoover listed in Amarok's instruments listing, so I assume this part is where he uses that. TV AM - I think you have the right idea, that this relates to the British breakfast TV show...I'd guess that this part reminds Mike of the type of theme music that those breakfast TV shows have. I think he's written 'real sploj' because that's just what it is (an arrow points to it as well) - a big splodge (or sploj) or ink. Alternatively, what I'm seeing as an arrow could be a G, perhaps making that 'great sploj'... I'll have to think a bit harder about the rest of it... Back to top

Blue Dolphin Group: Members Posts: 1232 Joined: Nov. 1999 Posted: May 02 2000, 18:11 Mike imagines music in his head when he sees images or something like that. I think he saw those things (green green; grass? etc.) and he wrote it down like that. -------------- -The mark of a good musician is to play one note and mean it- Mike Oldfield - 1980 Back to top

Vinz Group: Members Posts: 253 Joined: Feb. 2000 Posted: May 22 2000, 07:48 I was reading A Dark Star issue this week-end, and here is that I found. Tubular Bells 1972/3 There's "unrealeased segments from the original demo tape, including the "Hoover" piece. This recording still exists in Mike's archives. This Section was finally used on Amarok, albeit in a re-recorded form. The known "Hoover" section (16:11) is a remake." Well, that's all, but it may help ! -------------- Rejoignez la Tubular Mailing List francophone ! http://www.tubular.free.fr/tubular.php Back to top

GMOVJ Group: Members Posts: 273 Joined: Dec. 1999 Posted: May 23 2000, 04:41 Cool ! Do you know hot to get this unreleased version or is it impossible ? -------------- Cheers, GMOVJ [URL=http://tubular.fodplanet.com]http://tubular.fodplanet.com[/URL] - The french speaking mailing list Back to top

Vinz Group: Members Posts: 253 Joined: Feb. 2000 Posted: May 23 2000, 09:31 No, sorry. I have no idea of how you can get it ! But, there's no doubt that one nice day, Virgin will release all these rareties... (keep on dreaming !) -------------- Rejoignez la Tubular Mailing List francophone ! http://www.tubular.free.fr/tubular.php Back to top

Ugo Group: Members Posts: 5495 Joined: April 2000 Posted: Sep. 06 2000, 18:39 Hi, 2distortedguitars and sorry for such a late reply...it's just that only two days ago I finally managed to listen to the whole of Amarok...so now I can explain ALL the section names. -Roses: referring to the "sweetness" of the theme...although this does not match with the very folky Big Roses bit... -Scot: Referring to the double-guitar melody. It is in a similar style to the doubled melody played on "Guitars sounding like Bagpipes" on TB1. The sound is not the same, but the style of the melody is!! -Hoover: already exhaustingly answered by Korgscrew [Korgscrew, you're the best!! ] -Lion: referring to the slow-paced walk of the lion and to the majestic 'grandeur' of the theme. -Boat: Referring to the Italian 'Barcarola' (the boat song), a kind of traditional song with slow, melodic, lilting themes. But once again, this does not seem to match with the reggae-style reprise... -Green green: already answered [by yourself... ] -TV-AM: Ditto as above... -Preclax: short for pre-climax. -Baker: Mike's mistake for the surname of the Maggie Thatcher impersonator. He quickly corrected that section name into "Hello Everyone." Also: Mike maybe wanted the 'Ommadawny' section (i.e. Africa II) to last 5'20'', but this plan didn't seem to have turned out very good, as it lasts only 3'23''...I can't find any other explanation to this, because Amarok does not seem to contain any other Ommadawn-sounding section... P.S. (for Korgscrew): You're right, that's an arrow. It's "real sploj." [This message has been edited by Ugo (edited 09-06-2000).] -------------- Ugo C. - a devoted Amarokian Back to top

The Bell(end) Group: Members Posts: 1051 Joined: July 2005 Posted: Aug. 22 2005, 07:19 Quote (Korgscrew @ April 16 2000, 03:16) TV AM - I think you have the right idea, that this relates to the British breakfast TV show...I'd guess that this part reminds Mike of the type of theme music that those breakfast TV shows have. No, I he played a tune for 'Goodmorning great Britain' (TV AM) It changed it's name, in 1988. It had Taurus 3 and a tune from Amarok. The section was named TV AM because the section begins and ends with the tune he played on TV AM!! -------------- When the night's on fi-ya, do you need love's arms to hold yew? :D Back to top

hiawatha Group: Members Posts: 2391 Joined: Mar. 2004 Posted: Aug. 22 2005, 08:36 "Green Green" has musical precedent: it is something by the New Christy Minstrels http://shopping.yahoo.com/p:Green%20Green:1921976231 I've not heard this older one, so I do not know if it inspired the Amarok section. -------------- "In the land of the Dacotahs, Where the Falls of Minnehaha Flash and gleam among the oak-trees, Laugh and leap into the valley." - Song of Hiawatha Back to top

Craig Evans Group: Members Posts: 255 Joined: Sep. 2004 Posted: Aug. 23 2005, 10:21 Quote (Korgscrew @ April 15 2000, 22:16) Hoover - Mike used a hoover to make bagpipe drone noises on his original tubular bells 'demo'. There's a hoover listed in Amarok's instruments listing, so I assume this part is where he uses that. Was the "origional Hoover" from the "Tubular Bells sessions" an early demo as an alternative or plan for "Guitars sounding like bagpipes"?     -------------- "It is good to be on Horseback" - Mike Oldfield "On Horseback" "(Insert "The Thunderstorm" here)" Back to top

The Bell(end) Group: Members Posts: 1051 Joined: July 2005 Posted: April 30 2006, 15:18 Perhaps 'Green' is linked to the Steve Hillage album in some way.... -------------- When the night's on fi-ya, do you need love's arms to hold yew? :D Back to top

Clodomir Group: Members Posts: 50 Joined: Mar. 2006 Posted: May 14 2007, 18:31 Quote (Ugo @ Sep. 06 2000, 18:39) -Scot: Referring to the double-guitar melody. It is in a similar style to the doubled melody played on "Guitars sounding like Bagpipes" on TB1. The sound is not the same, but the style of the melody is!! That's funny, because the main tune of "Scot" was already put in the demos of TB, in a more quiet mood, with also more bass. For those who want to check in Peace Demo A : the piece starts at 05:12 in Peace Demo B : slower version, starts at 03:51 Nicolas www.mike-oldfield.net -------------- Mike Oldfield - Blog d'une passion http://www.mike-oldfield.net Back to top

Ugo Group: Members Posts: 5495 Joined: April 2000 Posted: May 15 2007, 16:59 Quote (Clodomir @ May 15 2007, 00:31) That's funny, because the main tune of "Scot" was already put in the demos of TB, in a more quiet mood, with also more bass. Sure it's there, I've got the demos. But Amarok contains a whole jumble of stuff that Mike composed very early in his career and never released. Some of it dates as far back as 1968 - it is in two of the guitar solo improvisations he did during the Sallyangie sessions. "Mrs. Moon and the thatched shop" features the Mad Bit and some of Roses, while "Branches" features all of Mandolin...  Also, later on, when he did a BBC session with Kevin Ayers' Whole World, he managed to smuggle a little bit of TV-AM, and a substantial bit of Ambient Guitars (TB), in the middle of Kevin's "Why are we sleeping". -------------- Ugo C. - a devoted Amarokian Back to top

captain cavern Group: Members Posts: 267 Joined: Oct. 2003 Posted: Dec. 16 2011, 11:38 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur99hYBV2Bs Ok for the Ambient Guitars bit, but where is the TV-AM bit ? Back to top

Ugo Group: Members Posts: 5495 Joined: April 2000 Posted: Dec. 16 2011, 18:16 @ Captain Cavern: first of all I'm not sure it's the same version - the version I'm talking about is the one in the live compilation Too Old to Die Young. At the moment I don't remember whether Kevin did that song for the BBC more than once and, as I don't have the CD here with me right now, I can't say what version is on there (if there is more than one live version for the BBC). Anyway, on that version, the TV-AM bit appears immediately before the Ambient Guitars section starts. It's extremely short, less than two seconds, but it's there. You don't really have to consider the bluesy arrangement found on Amarok... what I'm talking about is the main melody, which is there within WAWS. -------------- Ugo C. - a devoted Amarokian Back to top

captain cavern Group: Members Posts: 267 Joined: Oct. 2003 Posted: Dec. 17 2011, 11:00 I've listened to the Too Old To Die Young version but I can't find the bit. But I noticed another Amarok bit : (on my video) at 06.27, we can hear the guitar intro of the "Scot" section. (at 11.12 in Amarok) Back to top

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