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Posted: Dec. 29 2000, 07:27

I've been noticing that people on this forum tend to think that Mike had a particular style at a particular time. Many refer to his "Old Style" when talking about his more recent albums. This got me thinking, what are the phases in the evolution of Mike's musical style?

I think Mike's musical journey, or whatever you want to call it, can be divided into 5 definite phases:

Phase One: from Tubular Bells to Incantations

The period of glorious, sweeping, epic instrumentals which were like nothing seen before. Mike was doing pretty groundbreaking stuff here, and some say that this was the peak of his career.

Phase Two: from Exposed to Five Miles Out

Although still focused on instrumental music in the main, during this period Mike's music became more rock orientated and slightly more mainstream than before. During this period he started flirting with pop songs, such stuff as "Family Man" and "Five Miles Out" were a sign of things to come.

Phase Three: from Crises to Earth Moving

Most of the albums that Mike produced during this period are of a standard format: One long instrumental and a bunch of pop songs aimed at "selling" the album. This is referred to by some as his "commercial" period. This period culminated in one of his most uncharacteristic ventures, "Earth Moving", an album that only included songs.

Phase Four: Amarok and Heaven's Open

This is the period when Mike got really pissed off with Virgin, and in response produced his two most loony albums ever. Amarok is the greatest piece of music he has ever done, Heaven's Open is the worst album he has ever done.

Phase Five: Tubular Bells II to The Millennium Bell

This is the period when Mike hooked up with WEA and pushed himself much more than in the eighties. No two albums in this period sound alike, Mike tried out all kinds of different styles with each album, although it has been noted that he used synthesizers and elctronic techniques more during this period. Mike produced his most spectacular music ever during this period, and was at his most varied and unpredictable...

Who knows what the future will bring....
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Posted: Dec. 29 2000, 07:40

Oh come on bennyboy, Heaven's Open isn't THAT bad.

This is sort of like where Archangel Foster's experiment topic has gone.

As I've said before, I don't really think that Mike's music is in definite phases, in the same way that Amarok or Tubular Bells are in definite phases, just distinct sections, eg Piltdown Man, Sailor's Pornhipe.

I feel that your division of the albums is very good, though bennyboy. One thing, I found Five Miles Out and Crises very similar in format and style, the only difference being the slightly more electronic sound on Crises. Since Moonlight Shadow was the trigger for the commerical period, perhaps Crises is less a commerical album than say Islands. However, that is only my opinion.

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Posted: Dec. 29 2000, 11:27

'Sailor's Pornhipe'? biggrin biggrin biggrin!!!
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Posted: Dec. 29 2000, 23:09

The story goes like this, Archangel Foster:

I was at the house of one of my friends, a party-like gathering, and I and one of my other friends brought over some music, namely Tubular Bells, Ommadawn and Tubular Bells II. Now the friend whose party this was (and isn't the Mike Oldfield fan) had heard Tubular Bells before when we were working on a major group science assignment, and he distinctly remembered the Hornpipe. He grew bored listening to Part 2 (the introduction), and wanted us to skip forward, now knowing that there were only two tracks and that the Piltdown Man was to come anyway. However, he didn't exactly get his words right, and asked us to fast forward to the Sailor's Pornhipe, which caused hails of derisive laughter. So now whenever Tubular Bells is talked about amongst my friends (which is hardly often, usually just between the two others mentioned here) we refer to the Sailor's Pornhipe.

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Posted: Dec. 30 2000, 01:17

Sure cool, Tim!
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Posted: Dec. 30 2000, 01:41

However contrived it may seem, it is true. This isn't along the lines of synthesators.

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Posted: Dec. 30 2000, 11:44

I didn't doubt it. If it seemed so, my English has let me down again - sorry!
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Posted: Dec. 30 2000, 15:46

And do you know the story of the guy who used the whole of Ommadawn pt. 1 as music for a porn movie? Seems to be true as well!
PS. I'll have to tell my dad about that Pornhipe thing - he loves that sort of stuff!
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Posted: Jan. 02 2001, 16:55

I started thinking about this (phases in Mike's music, that is, not porn films, although as an aside, someone told me that there is more than one porn film using Ommadawn as a soundtrack...).

See, I don't feel that Incantations quite 'sits' with all the other 'old style' albums. The feel seems different. Maybe it's more bare or something. There's much more obvious use of synthesisers, for example...The sound of it, to me, indicates that a change is (or rather, was) starting to happen.

Platinum has some links with Incantations and some with QE2, but doesn't really seem to sit alongside either album. Guilty is perhaps the track that provides the 'missing link' between Incantations and Platinum...Five Miles Out again seems to be a little bit of one to stay on its own, although it has similarities with QE2 and Crises - I guess putting it in the same bracket as QE2 might work...

Discovery and Crises seem to make a sort of pairing - perhaps the influence of Simon Phillips as producer helped this. Islands doesn't quite fit - it seems a little bit more 'pop' than those two, as far as its songs go, although The Wind Chimes still has little hints back to the style of The Lake and Crises. The fact that several years separate Islands and Discovery seem to make a difference...Bits of it could be related to parts of The Killing Fields soundtrack, I suppose.

Then comes Earth Moving...I guess it's showing a big leaning towards mainstream rock and pop. The songs on Islands were doing that as well, but by Earth Moving, Mike seems to have refined that style a bit more. It could be put together with Islands, but the style has definitely changed in the time leading up to it (although that could be said about Ommadawn as well, as that seems to be more refined in its style than TB and HR...I've chosen to leave that alongside those first two though).

Amarok and Heaven's Open - I too see that these go together. I wouldn't necessarily say that Amarrok is best and Heaven's Open is worst (here comes another of these big opinion situations... wink ) - I find the ties between them too close for me to be able to say that. They do indeed both show Mike's annoyance and frustration with Virgin, and that comes across...Both Amarok and Music from the Balcony are quite disjointed - themes come and go, then return again, like thoughts going in and out of a mad mind...there's also big experimentation with sound textures on both albums. On Amarok it's more acoustic textures that Mike is playing with, whereas on MFTB it's more samples that he's playing with(like that weird bit where the tune is played on a sampled monkey). The songs fit into this as well - Mike experiments with his voice, for example, and sounds like the heavily distorted guitar on No Dream (which seems much more 'fuzzy' than anything he'd used before) and the distorted slide guitar on Heaven's Open are brought in.

The Warner period (bennyboy's phase 5) does seem to be more varied. Ideas do return between albums to tie them together though - the dance influence on Tubular Bells III and The Millennium Bell, for example (of course, there was Guitars inbetween)...The orchestral idea explored on Voyager for Mont St Michel also returns for The Millennium Bell, especially wwith lake Constance, which goes into similar guitar-with-orchestra territory.

I agree that generally, his music from this period is more varied, at least in superficial style (I say that because there does seem to me to be an overall 'feel' that ties many of them together). Is this, as bennyboy says, Mike pushing himself, or is he just lost and unsure of his true musical identity?
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Posted: Jan. 02 2001, 20:53

How's that for another 'The Bell': 'Two slightly sampled monkeys'? biggrin!
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