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Moz Group: Musicians Posts: 600 Joined: July 2005 Posted: Aug. 15 2007, 20:44 I've always liked Orabidoo, but I feel it is a little odd. The opening section is very pretty, and the closing section is beautiful.  But the middle is... well, it's not bad, but it's just not as good as the rest. Whenever I get to the end I find I have to turn the volume up a long way.  Why is it so quiet? I actually took the track and edited it so it starts with the song at the end, then the intro, but I totally removed the main section.  I also balanced the volume of the two outer parts and linked them together quite smoothly.  I haven't put the edited version online yet but if anyone wants to hear it, I'll upload it. I just wondered if anyone had already tried to do the same thing. -------------- Twitter: @benbarden Back to top

Sweetpea Group: Members Posts: 1476 Joined: April 2007 Posted: Aug. 16 2007, 02:49 Quote (Moz @ Aug. 15 2007, 20:44) I actually took the track and edited it so it starts with the song at the end, then the intro, but I totally removed the main section. When I edited that track, I removed the first seven minutes and the last two, leaving a four-minute piece. BUT... that was for my 'cartunes' playlist - I don't like quiet music while I'm driving. I also noticed the low sound level of the ending section. Usually not a problem for me as I tend to listen with headphones a lot. -------------- "I'm no physicist, but technically couldn't Mike both be with the horse and be flying through space at the same time? (On account of the earth's orbit around the Sun and all that). So it seems he never had to make the choice after all. I bet he's kicking himself now." - clotty Back to top

larstangmark Group: Members Posts: 1759 Joined: Mar. 2005 Posted: Aug. 16 2007, 03:20 The middle section is the main even to me, especially as it goes into the "faster" section with lots of melodies that run simultaneously. The only thing I don't like about Orabidoo now is the slow melodic section that comes after it (the section where there's a voice sample; "..don't come in again like that..."). I find it a bit repetetive and overblown compared to the preceeding sections. It used to be my favorite part of the track. The "quiet" ending can be a mistake on Mike's part. If you listen to it at full blast in a recording studio it's propably fully audible, but if you have the album on in the background at home you don't hear "Ireland's Eye" at all. I read somewhere that Rick Fenn wrote that track. I wonder if there's a source of that? -------------- "There are twelve people in the world, the rest are paste" Mark E Smith Back to top

ImAFoolAndImLaughing Group: Members Posts: 536 Joined: Feb. 2006 Posted: Aug. 16 2007, 03:59 When you say the "middle section" - are we talking about the Vocodered bit? Best bit in the whole album, that, if you ask me... -------------- "I was in this prematurely air conditioned supermarket and there were these bathing caps you could buy that had these kind of Fourth of July plumes on them that were red and yellow and blue and I wasn't tempted to buy one but I was reminded of the fact that I had been avoiding the beach." Back to top

larstangmark Group: Members Posts: 1759 Joined: Mar. 2005 Posted: Aug. 16 2007, 07:39 Quote (ImAFoolAndImLaughing @ Aug. 16 2007, 03:59) When you say the "middle section" - are we talking about the Vocodered bit? Best bit in the whole album, that, if you ask me... That bit is fantastic. It's not instantly memorable, it grows on you. I didn't like at first. Am I starting a trend of having "Einstein on the beach" signatures, or did you have one first? -------------- "There are twelve people in the world, the rest are paste" Mark E Smith Back to top

ImAFoolAndImLaughing Group: Members Posts: 536 Joined: Feb. 2006 Posted: Aug. 16 2007, 17:25 I'm ashamed to admit it, Lars - I was so chuffed to see a reference to Einstein in your sig, that I responded in kind! -------------- "I was in this prematurely air conditioned supermarket and there were these bathing caps you could buy that had these kind of Fourth of July plumes on them that were red and yellow and blue and I wasn't tempted to buy one but I was reminded of the fact that I had been avoiding the beach." Back to top

Holger Group: Members Posts: 1506 Joined: Feb. 2003 Posted: Aug. 16 2007, 17:44 Quote (larstangmark @ Aug. 16 2007, 09:20) I read somewhere that Rick Fenn wrote that track. I wonder if there's a source of that? I could well believe that. I've stated before that I feel Irelands Eye doesn't sound like something Mike would typically write, and that since Orabidoo is credited as a group composition, I suspect that this part was written by someone else. Good judgement on Mike's part to include it though, as it's a fantastic tune and rounds the track off nicely. Back to top

imhotep Group: Members Posts: 92 Joined: Jan. 2007 Posted: Nov. 21 2007, 13:55 What is Ireland's Eye? Back to top

amazarak Group: Members Posts: 284 Joined: Mar. 2005 Posted: Nov. 21 2007, 14:36 "Irelands Eye" - the final part of Orabidoo, with Maggie's vocal and Mike's acoustic guitar only. Together with "Deep deep sound" from Taurus II, one of the two most magical moments of 5MO, IMHO cheers -------------- Just hold your heading true Got to get your finest out Back to top

amazarak Group: Members Posts: 284 Joined: Mar. 2005 Posted: Nov. 21 2007, 14:44 Quote Whenever I get to the end I find I have to turn the volume up a long way.  Why is it so quiet? Well, it just means that you've been listening to the remaining part too quiet. Quote If you listen to it at full blast in a recording studio it's probably fully audible, but if you have the album on in the background at home you don't hear "Ireland's Eye" at all. You seriously speak abut listening to 5MO IN THE BACKGROUND??? Man, that's a sacrilege indeed... cheers -------------- Just hold your heading true Got to get your finest out Back to top

amazarak Group: Members Posts: 284 Joined: Mar. 2005 Posted: Nov. 21 2007, 14:45 The last one is just a joke... ...to some extent. amz -------------- Just hold your heading true Got to get your finest out Back to top

imhotep Group: Members Posts: 92 Joined: Jan. 2007 Posted: Nov. 21 2007, 14:52 Quote (amazarak @ Nov. 21 2007, 14:36) "Irelands Eye" - the final part of Orabidoo, with Maggie's vocal and Mike's acoustic guitar only. Together with "Deep deep sound" from Taurus II, one of the two most magical moments of 5MO, IMHO cheers How do you know what the parts are called? Back to top

larstangmark Group: Members Posts: 1759 Joined: Mar. 2005 Posted: Nov. 21 2007, 15:44 Quote (imhotep @ Nov. 21 2007, 14:52) Quote (amazarak @ Nov. 21 2007, 14:36) "Irelands Eye" - the final part of Orabidoo, with Maggie's vocal and Mike's acoustic guitar only. Together with "Deep deep sound" from Taurus II, one of the two most magical moments of 5MO, IMHO cheers How do you know what the parts are called? The sleeve of FMO displays the lyrics to "The Deep Deep Sound", so that comes from the sleeve. "Ireland's Eye" could be a fan-name for the last part of Orabidoo, but I recall seeing sheet music for that bit somewhere where it's called "Ireland's Eye". I'm not sure though. -------------- "There are twelve people in the world, the rest are paste" Mark E Smith Back to top

imhotep Group: Members Posts: 92 Joined: Jan. 2007 Posted: Nov. 21 2007, 16:28 Quote (larstangmark @ Nov. 21 2007, 15:44) Quote (imhotep @ Nov. 21 2007, 14:52) Quote (amazarak @ Nov. 21 2007, 14:36) "Irelands Eye" - the final part of Orabidoo, with Maggie's vocal and Mike's acoustic guitar only. Together with "Deep deep sound" from Taurus II, one of the two most magical moments of 5MO, IMHO cheers How do you know what the parts are called? The sleeve of FMO displays the lyrics to "The Deep Deep Sound", so that comes from the sleeve. "Ireland's Eye" could be a fan-name for the last part of Orabidoo, but I recall seeing sheet music for that bit somewhere where it's called "Ireland's Eye". I'm not sure though. My remaster CD doesn't have any lyrics in the booklet. Thanks though. Back to top

Spinne Group: Members Posts: 397 Joined: May 2003 Posted: Nov. 21 2007, 16:40 Quote (imhotep @ Nov. 21 2007, 22:28) My remaster CD doesn't have any lyrics in the booklet.   Remaster HDCD CDs doesn't include lyrics, tales, original artwork... Quote (larstangmark @ Nov. 21 2007, 21:44) The sleeve of FMO displays the lyrics to "The Deep Deep Sound", so that comes from the sleeve. Do you mean that in the original sleeve these lyrics are named as "The Deep Deep Sound" instead of "Taurus II"? Back to top

amazarak Group: Members Posts: 284 Joined: Mar. 2005 Posted: Nov. 21 2007, 16:48 On my folded LP release there are no Taurus II nor Orabidoo Lyrics, just those of Five Miles Out (in different places of the crayon-drawn "track sheet"). I think all those "Ireland's Eye" and "Deep deep sound" names are just fan terminology to refer particular parts of the pieces. cheers -------------- Just hold your heading true Got to get your finest out Back to top

larstangmark Group: Members Posts: 1759 Joined: Mar. 2005 Posted: Nov. 22 2007, 04:39 Quote (amazarak @ Nov. 21 2007, 16:48) On my folded LP release there are no Taurus II nor Orabidoo Lyrics, just those of Five Miles Out (in different places of the crayon-drawn "track sheet"). I think all those "Ireland's Eye" and "Deep deep sound" names are just fan terminology to refer particular parts of the pieces. cheers I know this sounds stupid, but look again! It's barely visible. At least it's on the LP sleeve. Edit: read more about it in this topic: http://tubular.net/forums....8;t=784 -------------- "There are twelve people in the world, the rest are paste" Mark E Smith Back to top

amazarak Group: Members Posts: 284 Joined: Mar. 2005 Posted: Nov. 22 2007, 11:12 Quote (larstangmark @ Nov. 22 2007, 10:39) I know this sounds stupid, but look again! It's barely visible. At least it's on the LP sleeve. Edit: read more about it in this topic: http://tubular.net/forums....8;t=784 Ah, yes, indeed, I was looking for it in the wrong place They are barely visible, but labeled as "The Deep Deep Sound". However, I still can't find anything about the Ireland's Eye... cheers -------------- Just hold your heading true Got to get your finest out Back to top

imhotep Group: Members Posts: 92 Joined: Jan. 2007 Posted: Nov. 22 2007, 15:41 Quote (Spinne @ Nov. 21 2007, 16:40) Quote (imhotep @ Nov. 21 2007, 22:28) My remaster CD doesn't have any lyrics in the booklet.   Remaster HDCD CDs doesn't include lyrics, tales, original artwork... Quote (larstangmark @ Nov. 21 2007, 21:44) The sleeve of FMO displays the lyrics to "The Deep Deep Sound", so that comes from the sleeve. Do you mean that in the original sleeve these lyrics are named as "The Deep Deep Sound" instead of "Taurus II"? That's a fucking stupid move by Virgin. Half assed! I hope someday we'll get great re-issues with original artwork and maybe bonus tracks too. There are too many unreleased tracks out there. Back to top

amazarak Group: Members Posts: 284 Joined: Mar. 2005 Posted: Nov. 22 2007, 16:20 ... and without freakin' HDCD or any other remastering technique This sucks most. cheers -------------- Just hold your heading true Got to get your finest out Back to top

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