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Question: Incantations :: Total Votes:89 Poll choices Votes Statistics Part 1 26  [29.21%] Part 2 2  [2.25%] Part 3 21  [23.60%] Part 4 40  [44.94%] Guests cannot vote

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familyjules Group: Members Posts: 1190 Joined: May 2004 Posted: June 30 2010, 04:10 Quote (Delfín @ June 29 2010, 11:08) Nothing more rock and roll for me than the last section of 'Incantations part 2'. Uh...lovely as that is, I don't think it qualifies as rock 'n' roll! Jules -------------- I like beer and I like cheese Back to top

Delfín Group: Members Posts: 667 Joined: Nov. 2000 Posted: June 30 2010, 04:48 I know, I'm only kidding. What I really mean is that part is amazing, really good, and I can hear it for a few times in a row... -------------- The most precious thing I possess, is knowing the answer's yes Back to top

wiga Group: Members Posts: 2113 Joined: Sep. 2008 Posted: July 10 2010, 14:32 ........"But she'll bring out the best and the worst you can be. Blame it all on yourself cos she's always Incantations to me Oooohhh       she takes care of herself ....." -------------- Barn's burnt down - now I can see the moon. Back to top

nightspore Group: Members Posts: 4764 Joined: Mar. 2008 Posted: July 10 2010, 21:41 Quote (wiga @ July 10 2010, 14:32) ........"But she'll bring out the best and the worst you can be. Blame it all on yourself cos she's always Incantations to me Oooohhh       she takes care of herself ....." I think Milamber was wrong, Wiga - it's not David Cassidy who was your pinup but Billy Joel!   Back to top

wiga Group: Members Posts: 2113 Joined: Sep. 2008 Posted: July 11 2010, 05:47 Quote (nightspore @ July 10 2010, 21:41) Quote (wiga @ July 10 2010, 14:32) ........"But she'll bring out the best and the worst you can be. Blame it all on yourself cos she's always Incantations to me Oooohhh       she takes care of herself ....." I think Milamber was wrong, Wiga - it's not David Cassidy who was your pinup but Billy Joel!   Recently, there's been a big revival of Always a Woman to Me with this very successful commercial. Even my kids are bowled over with this song now. It seems to have effectively hit a nerve in people. Billy Joel wasn't such a great looker but he sure charmed with his lyrics   -------------- Barn's burnt down - now I can see the moon. Back to top

nightspore Group: Members Posts: 4764 Joined: Mar. 2008 Posted: July 11 2010, 07:26 I like "Only the Good Die Young", and yes, Mr J obviously writes his lyrics with care - even to the extent of naming the female in this song "Virginia" = virgin. Back to top

familyjules Group: Members Posts: 1190 Joined: May 2004 Posted: July 11 2010, 12:51 Quote (wiga @ July 11 2010, 05:47) Recently, there's been a big revival of Always a Woman to Me with this very successful commercial. Even my kids are bowled over with this song now. It seems to have effectively hit a nerve in people. Is that Billy Joel?  It's a fine song.  I was wondering who it was.  Thought it might be some new whippersnapper. Jules -------------- I like beer and I like cheese Back to top

Chris Ibberson Group: Members Posts: 88 Joined: Aug. 2011 Posted: Aug. 06 2011, 10:06 For myself, the whole of side one is my clear winner, mainly because of the Flutes, the Girls Choir,and the String arrangements. The second half of Part four is almost perfection, but I cast my vote for Part one.   -------------- Diana Luna Lucina Back to top

Platinumpty Group: Members Posts: 173 Joined: May 2011 Posted: Aug. 08 2011, 05:39 Quote (nightspore @ July 11 2010, 07:26) I like "Only the Good Die Young", and yes, Mr J obviously writes his lyrics with care - even to the extent of naming the female in this song "Virginia" = virgin. Many great things in the Joel canon, and like MO, he does seem frustratingly to have semi-retired, only popping up now and again for another chintzy Greatest Hits tour. For anyone not familiar (and yes, this is off-topic but I didn't start it), I'd recommend the albums: Piano Man - early depressive stage The Stranger - Tin Pan Alley tunesmith extraordinaire 52nd Street - Varied and beautifully produced Nylon Curtain - Joel goes weird River of Dreams - Better than you remember it to be And how about an Oldfield / Joel collaboration.  Piano and guitar virtuosi together?  They can call it Joelfield... I'll get my coat. Back to top

bob the screamer Group: Members Posts: 108 Joined: Jan. 2011 Posted: Aug. 08 2011, 14:28 While the climax on part 4 is really nice, I voted for part 1. I think Incantation is a little bit too repetative for me, except for part 1 which is really interesting and clearly my favourite. -------------- New free album out: http://www.bobthescreamer.com/music/twinety-twine/ Back to top

wiga Group: Members Posts: 2113 Joined: Sep. 2008 Posted: Aug. 08 2011, 15:11 Quote (bob the screamer @ Aug. 08 2011, 19:28) I think Incantation is a little bit too repetative for me Too repetitive? Mike said - "I am the repetitive man." Not bought my Deluxe copy yet - going to hold off for a glitch free part 4 - hopefully by November. -------------- Barn's burnt down - now I can see the moon. Back to top

bob the screamer Group: Members Posts: 108 Joined: Jan. 2011 Posted: Aug. 08 2011, 16:43 Quote (wiga @ Aug. 08 2011, 21:11) Too repetitive? Yes. I get bored easily I'm not a huge fan of the going-on-forever-in-the-same-way parts of Mike's work (Incantations part 2, foreign affair etc)... In fact, one of the reasons I really like his work is that he usually does not repeat any phrase of music in the exact same way twice (Don't get me wrong, I really like when themes repeat and self-reference and such, but not when the same thing is going on and on and on and...) -------------- New free album out: http://www.bobthescreamer.com/music/twinety-twine/ Back to top

Olivier Group: Super Admins Posts: 1866 Joined: Nov. 1999 Posted: Aug. 08 2011, 17:20 Part 3. 2:07 to 2:17 is absolutely amazing. Back to top

HR lover Group: Members Posts: 548 Joined: Sep. 2010 Posted: Aug. 08 2011, 17:23 I absolutely do not understand part 3. For me part 1,2 and 4 seem to connect but part 3 is absolutely incoherent with the rest of the album. -------------- Neither a borrower nor a lender be, For loan oft loses both itself and friend, And borrowing dulls the edge of husbandry. Back to top

Olivier Group: Super Admins Posts: 1866 Joined: Nov. 1999 Posted: Aug. 08 2011, 17:30 I'm a big fan of the transitional moments in part 3. Other parts sometimes feel like something just stops and another thing starts and it could as well have been called part XX too. Part 3 is more connected with itself, yet has abrupt transitions, but connected. Part 3 2:07 - 2:17 vs Part 1 15:07 - 15:17 for example. Part 4 11:30 - 11:40 is not as amazing as Part 3 too. Back to top

Chris Ibberson Group: Members Posts: 88 Joined: Aug. 2011 Posted: Sep. 01 2011, 13:51 Quote (Chris Ibberson @ Aug. 06 2011, 10:06) For myself, the whole of side one is my clear winner, mainly because of the Flutes. I have looked through previous posts and haven't come across any tribute to the late Sebastian Bell. He passed away on September 21st 2007 aged 65 after a battle against cancer. He was a founder member of the London Sinfonietta, and his contribution to Incantations/Exposed is one of my very favourites. -------------- Diana Luna Lucina Back to top

hiawatha Group: Members Posts: 2391 Joined: Mar. 2004 Posted: Sep. 03 2011, 11:58 Quote (HR lover @ Aug. 08 2011, 17:23) I absolutely do not understand part 3. For me part 1,2 and 4 seem to connect but part 3 is absolutely incoherent with the rest of the album. I think Part 3 fits in very well with the rest of the album. The ascending note pattern that is the 'key" to Incantations (first introduced with the choir intro at the start of #1) is deftly woven into each of Part 3's three or four sections. -------------- "In the land of the Dacotahs, Where the Falls of Minnehaha Flash and gleam among the oak-trees, Laugh and leap into the valley." - Song of Hiawatha Back to top

captainjjb Group: Members Posts: 310 Joined: Feb. 2006 Posted: Sep. 03 2011, 14:04 Quote (Chris Ibberson @ Sep. 01 2011, 13:51) I have looked through previous posts and haven't come across any tribute to the late Sebastian Bell. He passed away on September 21st 2007 aged 65 after a battle against cancer. He was a founder member of the London Sinfonietta, and his contribution to Incantations/Exposed is one of my very favourites. indeed.  I wonder how much of what he did at the end of Side 1 was improvised on the spot and how much was directed or worked out by him and Mike?  It is one of the highlights of the whole piece for me - wonderful. Back to top

equinoxe Group: Members Posts: 175 Joined: Aug. 2011 Posted: Sep. 13 2011, 04:00 All Part 3 in the first place. Love the begining, than the  amazing guitar solo played with much soul in it and the ending. Beautiful piece. In the second place the entire Part 1 and also the rhytmic theme in Part 4. Back to top

equinoxe Group: Members Posts: 175 Joined: Aug. 2011 Posted: Sep. 13 2011, 04:06 Ahhh, forgot. Don't know why, but entire Part 2 is very boring to me. Yes it is beautiful sung poem in some way, but it's not catchy to me anyhow... Really boring part... Back to top

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