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Posted: Sep. 09 2011, 06:53 |
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| Quote (Ugo @ Sep. 07 2011, 16:01) | @ I1: I am afraid that the only one who, in my very humble opinion, should move elsewhere, or continue chatting in private, is you. I think it's been amply proved that no-one but you, out of all the people who have posted in this thread, believes in the existence of the so-called riddle or in its supposed meaning. It's not only me who doesn't "see things", as you say. NO ONE believes in it. It's no wonder that people don't reply to you any longer and don't take into account any argumentations that you are making any longer - that's because no-one is following you any longer. Somone here tried to follow you, but then the whole thing got a bit too fanatical, and eventually people got tired of it. My very honest advice to you would be to post all this in another board, maybe one devoted entirely to enigmatography... the fact that the "enigma" is contained within a piece of music by Mike Oldfield has become, I think, utterly irrelevant. This, as far as I know, is a discussion forum which is devoted to the MUSIC of Mike Oldfield, not to solving enigmas within it, or to finding hidden meanings within it. What the heck, you even mistook an image of people from Bali singing together for apostles or whatever! If you have some sort of fixation, well, no-one else here has it.
Also, I find your comparison of us to graffiti vandals somewhat offensive. I don't like to come here to be offended by people.
@ Milamber: ah, is that "Excalibur" ? Ah, what a fool I am!  I do have the early mixes of TMB, but this goes to show just how un-fond I am of those mixes, or, indeed, of the TMB album itself.  |
I will reply soon to this Ugo, but sadly I to have to rest once in a blue moon.
HERE IS MY REPLY UGO TO YOU AND ALL WHO ARE IN DOUBT.
( Please read it carefully )
Dear Ugo & ALL Readers
Ugo are you saying I have to leave & not write about the topic I started? What gives you this right? I was under the impression that these forums or indeed all forums were about freedom of speech if staying on the topics that are headed.
As you now see Ugo there is at least one other that does share my view and I have it on good faith there would be plenty more if it was not for your endless besmirching or discrediting of anything anyone writes here. You Ugo are one of life's talkers but in letter form & do not appear to be one of it's thinkers. If something is not inside your box of vast yet still limited understanding you appear to rarely listen or fully read anything, you also seem to suffer from fear of the unknown. In your world nothing can be given the chance to make sense unless you believe it already, based on the knowledge you already possess. If mankind had always had that attitude we would still be in the trees, too scared to come down and walk upon Terra firma & look around to see what the land had to offer us.
Some of us wish to keep expanding our views, building on our knowledge, looking for the truth. Now you & your Surly friend answer me this, if E = mc2 how can the reverse not also be true? Contemplate what this means to you & all mankind. Are you not just energy, vibrating & resonating to the music of the cosmos, that energy which is Omnipresent within & beyond our spheres. We are but nothing, only semi stable energy, children of light made from star dust, now you can be golden but you have got to get yourselves back to the garden. You have been hearing the voice of truth in science (or\& God's voice?) for years.......... yet you never heard 1T!!!, ring any bells? Yet never mind, cheer up. I and the "I"s are here to try and show you what you could not hear, so do not be blind as well as partly deaf, give yourself the chance to see & start looking with eyes wide open whilst you still can and you'd be amazed at what those ears will then hear. In the domain of your mind there is something special see if you can with our help find 1T, a hint it is within you & us all and if you OM you will in purity of heart in mind find 1T I am sure.
Understand that if the whole world does not start to sing with just one voice & purpose in a common truth, i.e. all for 1 & 1 for all it will all be over sooner than you all think! Ugo & all, you must go and learn the full meaning of the word "OM" you need to realise there are things you do not conceive. I am not saying you are stupid, in fact far from it. I have seen you write on things where you have shown you have great understanding and knowledge but believe me there are people here who have currently greater understanding on topics in which you have none or little. Start thinking CHILD of the SUN! you are unique in the universe but no man is an Island you must all cooperate in order to coexist and become all you could be or sadly die as one, this is how it will be and has always been unless you find a common aim.
It is now up to you, you can listen well and time (alpha+omega) will tell if I am right to give you my insight in the hope that you can see what is right, or you can in blindness wait 4 the OMega BELL to sound 1T'S last chime on the time of thought for man & woman kind, please do not go blind this time you may have a chance. Fear can be our friend or foe it can be what guides us to safety like a friend or makes us run blindly from the unknown into danger like a foe. What I/we have to tell you gives us no fear in our knowing 1T, I am now without fear of that that is known to me, 1T is in your not knowing 1T that I have fears for you! not I.
Think, all I/we are asking is that you hear us out, that once you see all these things that MIKE has tried so hard to show you and let you hear in his universal work that he himself says comes from a power outside of him, ask yourself what does he mean when he says he feels like a conduit for sound?.
Once you have a complete picture then will be the time to consider if the whole is full or empty. I must tell you now this I have nothing to gain from this. I have not procreated, my partner and I are without human children, I do this for you as I have the inbuilt desire to help life of any description to become all that it could one day be. I do this for the innocent children who are being given the sins of the fathers upon their birth.
In fact, rather strangely, all the other "I"'s are also without children as far as I or they know, yet we all wish to do all we can to save the history of man for you & your children living now or yet to be born & their future children, so will you for the sake of the children take a good hard look before you make up your minds what is right for you, remembering the choice you make is ultimately for them too.
Well now you know why I wish to tell you these things. I can in no way benefit from it, I am not seeking payment because in wealth the "I"'s have all we need apart from knowing you are firstly, "SAFE" & secondly, the most important thing of all "HAPPY". Also understand that I could be now floating in a warm sea surrounded by turtles and dolphins yet instead I am here with & for you, so think would you do this for me? & what have I got to gain from spending what little time I have left in writing to you (when I could be spending it with those that I love who are kind and care for me) just in the hope that you will see now what you should have heard and already seen, for some this will be long ago!.
Now all I seek from you is the most valuable word you possess, when I ask you should we go on?***! A warning, do not make what we in England would call a knee jerk reaction and respond suddenly without thinking it over first, because if it is a resounding NO then we will go and leave you in the place of shade in which you currently rest & I only have this one last chance to tell you these things so think carefully is it wise to say no and never know of the things we would show you?. So again yes? no? you have a month = 30 days to come forward and vote, I will leave you on the Tenth of OCTOBER if the answer is yes I will stay.
If 1T is an overall vote of NO, i.e. no one wants to know what we have left to show them, then so be it.
Ugo I hope you can find peace in this knowledge & can if you do not have a change of mind or heart, be left if we leave, in whatever peace you had before our arrival. Whilst I/we go & travel up the mountain to rest knowing I/we tried our best to tell all the all as I/we were meant to do and nothing will ever be heard from me again, just as ShiNe & other "I"'s once did, as she to was a witness to many things & as in Michael's lyrics you will be left to hear the sound of the TUBULAR BELLS. You had better pray though that they keep ringing as the bells on earth are like the song of a bird, they are our cry of being, our toll unto the universe in which we vibrate. The earliest bell was not of metal, it began far further back, it would have been of rock or maybe hollow wood like a drum, it was the sound of that very first thought of making a ringing sound that pleased the mind that very first time and rung out to the universe I MANKIND AM HERE & HEAR with mind that thinks, therefore I am. Remember this sound has called upon man for millennia, as far back as our human minds go, it (the voice of the bell) is the very essence of timeless sound, they are said to ring true and with a voice they are said to speak a holy sound from the void within. They are a sign of the presence of sentient life, and when it stops ringing all will be lost for in those end days bells will ring 4 sure & many will come to ask why, do you want to be the one to tell them you had the chance but you wouldn't, didn't listen!...
I am sorry if my ability to express myself in words is letting you down, and for those who do not speak or understand fully what is written here my hope is that someone will come forward and convey it to you in your own tongue, in words you can fully understand. If there is anybody who thinks they can do a better job I will say now, please come forward as my physical eyes are failing me.
Lastly the reason why I write all these things here to you is that you are his fans, you must realise that there is something in his music that speaks to you and also you as fans will hopefully have faith in what you see in him. I would also hope that some if not all of you will want to be his his FRIEND! & on that note this FRIday I will END.
Happiness to all
CIAO I1...
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bye I1...
It's fantastic - especially in the end when Dick Van Dyke does the counterpoint on the "Truly Scrumptious" melody.