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woodrue Group: Members Posts: 1 Joined: Mar. 2000 Posted: Mar. 29 2000, 02:30 Hi everyone. I was looking for foreign affair lyrics. I found two different versions, and I'd like to hear frfom you wich one is the right one. on another site I found this: 'A lagoon by la mere. It's a foreign affair' on this site it is this way: 'Ali goum pa la mere. It's a foreign affair' Wich one is right? And, by the way, what does ali goum pa mean? Thanks fot your help Back to top

Cipher Group: Members Posts: 67 Joined: Mar. 2000 Posted: Mar. 29 2000, 03:22 IMHO the right lyric is A lagoon by la mere. It makes more sense than the other one, that you can find just right here in tubular.net. And only here, I think... Back to top

GMOVJ Group: Members Posts: 273 Joined: Dec. 1999 Posted: Mar. 31 2000, 07:11 Hi I don't understand why 'A lagoon by la mere' should have more sense than 'Ali goum pa la mere'. All right for 'A lagoon', but why 'by la mere' ? I really don't understand. Could you be more precise ? Maybe another track to follow : In french 'la mere' mean 'the mother'... But 'A lagoon by the mother' may be non-sense... And 'la mer', which has nearly the same pronounciation mean The Sea... Maybe more sense now ? As i'm french, i'd like to know if 'A lagoon by the sea' makes sense... Cheers GMOVJ -------------- Cheers, GMOVJ [URL=http://tubular.fodplanet.com]http://tubular.fodplanet.com[/URL] - The french speaking mailing list Back to top

Vinz Group: Members Posts: 253 Joined: Feb. 2000 Posted: Mar. 31 2000, 07:34 Hi there I'm french too, and i think that 'A lagoon by la mer' means something. Maybe it means far on the sea or something like that. And don't forget the title : 'FOREIGN Affair'. The word 'foreign' can explain 'la mer' in french, no ? Well, it's an idea... Bye -------------- Rejoignez la Tubular Mailing List francophone ! http://www.tubular.free.fr/tubular.php Back to top

GMOVJ Group: Members Posts: 273 Joined: Dec. 1999 Posted: Mar. 31 2000, 10:23 I think 'A lagoon by la mer' may means 'A lagoon near the sea, maybe like a beautiful beach of Tahiti, with Coconet-tree, white sand, blue sea... ;-) But in my mind, a lagoon is always near the sea ! That's why I wonder if there is a sense in english... I will listen to FA this evening to try to identify these words... But I like it like that : French Polynesia, Tahiti, so 'By la mer' ;-) Have a nice week-end GMOVJ -------------- Cheers, GMOVJ [URL=http://tubular.fodplanet.com]http://tubular.fodplanet.com[/URL] - The french speaking mailing list Back to top

Cipher Group: Members Posts: 67 Joined: Mar. 2000 Posted: Mar. 31 2000, 11:16 Well, I think that the second part it's "la mer", more than "la mere", sorry I though that mer-sea had a final "e". That's because I said that it makes more sense than "Ali goum...". Back to top

GMOVJ Group: Members Posts: 273 Joined: Dec. 1999 Posted: April 03 2000, 04:32 Hi everyone Yes, it's not easy to hear that, with Maggie's Anglo-Saxon accent, but it could be 'A lagoon by la mer'... The first time it appears, I truely hear "Ali...", so it's very uncertain... I sometimes hear 'A lagoon par la mer', which can be an word-to-word translation of 'A lagoon by the sea' (in french, we would say 'A lagoon on the sea'- Un lagon sur la mer) : by = par. Does anybody else have an idea ? And now another small discussion : which Island is it ? Foreign affair Take a trip in the air To a tropical beach An island to reach A new territory For an intimate story Ali goum pa la mere It's a foreign affair Drifting and free On a mystical sea A drop in the ocean A hush in the air You can feel anywhere In the cool twilight On a tropical night All right, this is surely about a tropical Island, in an Ocean or a Sea. And if we consider that 'Ali goum...' is 'A lagoon...' and the french words 'par la mer', we may talk about French speaking Island. It may be "les Antilles (Guadeloupe-Martinique)". We know there's a lagoon, so it can't be "La Reunion", because there's no lagoon there... Mauritius speaks English and French, so it may be this. And there's all Pacific Islands (French Polynesia, New Caledonia, Wallis and Futuna) I can't believe MO talk about Wallis and Futuna, they are NOT mystic at all ! Cheers GMOVJ -------------- Cheers, GMOVJ [URL=http://tubular.fodplanet.com]http://tubular.fodplanet.com[/URL] - The french speaking mailing list Back to top

Cipher Group: Members Posts: 67 Joined: Mar. 2000 Posted: April 03 2000, 07:31 It's very interesting finding which island is this! If anyone 'round here is a expert in MO biography, maybe he/she could tell us which trips did MO the year he composed FA. I'm sure that someone knows this. And through that we'll have more data to find which island is... Back to top

CarstenKuss Group: Musicians Posts: 362 Joined: Nov. 1999 Posted: April 03 2000, 16:31 I have no idea about all this, but: On FMO, there's a track "MOUNT TEIDI". Does this refer to the mountain "Pico de Teide" on the island of Teneriffa? -------------- -Carsten- Back to top

Cipher Group: Members Posts: 67 Joined: Mar. 2000 Posted: April 04 2000, 11:28 The answer to your question about the Mount Teide is YES. By the way it's "Pico del Teide", "Teide" is the name of the mountain, a volcano in this case, and "Pico" is for "Peak or Pick", and "del" not "de", del=de+el=of the. I know that almost everywhere in MO albums it's "Mount Teidi", but not everywhere. The correct version it's "Mount Teide", "Teidi" it's just the way the anglophones say it. And it is in Tenerife Island (Teneriffa? Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha) Back to top

CarstenKuss Group: Musicians Posts: 362 Joined: Nov. 1999 Posted: April 04 2000, 16:26 Thank you, Cipher. I took the names from a German standard school atlas. Maybe people are right who say that children should learn from the web rather than from books -------------- -Carsten- Back to top

Inkanta Group: Admins Posts: 1453 Joined: Feb. 2000 Posted: April 07 2000, 21:15 Greetings all! I FINALLY had a chance to hall out the vinyl and look at the lyrics sheet that had been included - one side is Japanese and the other side is English. The lyrics sheet says "a la coump a la mer." I have a fairly good (so I thought!) French dictionary (no English in it), but the word "coump" doesn't appear. I had always wondered if it were a slang word that wouldn't necessarily appear in most dictionaries. ???? I had always thought that the word might have involved an activity by the sea, as opposed to a land feature. On the other hand, lagoons are certainly associated with the sea, and are shallow ponds, channels, cul-de-sacs. But "coump" doesn't translate to lagoon. Question for the French speakers, does it translate to anything, or is it some sort of typo? M-C -------------- "No such thing as destiny; only choices exist." From:  Moongarden's "Solaris." Back to top

Cipher Group: Members Posts: 67 Joined: Mar. 2000 Posted: April 10 2000, 10:35 Oh. Then we have only two solutions: a) Is out there someone from France (or Quebec)? What means "coump"? b) Do you know a japanese for tranlate the japanese lyrics? Back to top

Olivier Group: Super Admins Posts: 1865 Joined: Nov. 1999 Posted: April 10 2000, 12:37 I'm French and living in Québec, and "coump" means nothing for me (but I'm not fluent in Québec language...) It could sound like some language spoken in islands. "a la" means "to the" or "at the". Maybe "coump" means "sea" in a local language used on a French island. Just an hypothesis. Back to top

Inkanta Group: Admins Posts: 1453 Joined: Feb. 2000 Posted: April 10 2000, 21:55 Cipher asks: b) Do you know a japanese for tranlate the japanese lyrics? I need to be saved from myself. Yes, in fact we host a Japanese college student, and why I haven't thought to ask her about this is beyond me......I've only had two entire years ))-: Actually, until hauling out the lyrics the other night, I forgot the sheet included a Japanese version. She's incredibly busy with studies and the end of the semester, but perhaps this weekend she'll have time to look at them. -------------- "No such thing as destiny; only choices exist." From:  Moongarden's "Solaris." Back to top

GMOVJ Group: Members Posts: 273 Joined: Dec. 1999 Posted: April 12 2000, 03:52 I'm French too, and "a la coump" means nothing for me. I'm trying to contact someone who know 'creole' (The Antilles slang)... -------------- Cheers, GMOVJ [URL=http://tubular.fodplanet.com]http://tubular.fodplanet.com[/URL] - The french speaking mailing list Back to top

Cipher Group: Members Posts: 67 Joined: Mar. 2000 Posted: April 12 2000, 07:54 Wow, the we have two choices, one is to find someone with a good knowledge of creole french, and the other is that misterious japanese student that is so busy now. I'm sure that Mike put that in the lyrics for giving us an interesting journey into the fascinating world of anthropology and language sociology. Just kidding. He put that there 'cause he didn't find a word with the desired sound... Back to top

GMOVJ Group: Members Posts: 273 Joined: Dec. 1999 Posted: April 13 2000, 02:54 Hi No, it means nothing for my 'Creole Speaking' friend (Creole is a language spoken by people living in the Antilles). For him not any word in Creole sounds like 'a la coump' we should give up this idea. And yes, Cipher, I agree, MO had certainly put this words because they sound like he wanted to ! And he always does what he want, even if it is non-sense ;-)! -------------- Cheers, GMOVJ [URL=http://tubular.fodplanet.com]http://tubular.fodplanet.com[/URL] - The french speaking mailing list Back to top

Inkanta Group: Admins Posts: 1453 Joined: Feb. 2000 Posted: April 13 2000, 23:59 With his penchant for non-language lyrics, perhaps Mike could adapt a Klingon opera..... OK, so Klingon is an actual language....(I still don't understand why people spend time learning it when there are several thousand languages on the planet to learn). Guess because it's there, and you never know when you'll encounter a Klingon.... Anyway....earlier this year, we learned from Mike himself that On Horseback is "chaos" and not "cares." Perhaps we can eventually get the scoop on coump, too! Speaking of non-words, there are so-called straight songs performed by some Native American artists in which they sing/chant non-words to evoke an emotional response on the part of the listener; I think Mike accomplishes this with his use of chants. -------------- "No such thing as destiny; only choices exist." From:  Moongarden's "Solaris." Back to top

Korgscrew Group: Super Admins Posts: 3511 Joined: Dec. 1999 Posted: April 15 2000, 22:46 Just to complicate (or maybe simplify?) things further...The lyrics accompanying the sheet music in the 'Elements' book say 'A lagoon par la mer'... I believe that the French word for lagoon can be 'lagune' (as well as lagon...am I right here?)...Perhaps maggie Reilly pronouncing this badly is what's leading to this 'coump' thing... I'd imagine that what it is at least trying to say is 'A lagoon by the sea', even if it doesn't quite succeed... Back to top

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