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Posted: April 13 2008, 20:29

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Just to quote another example, I could never have imagined that Elvis Presley fans would like Céline Dion. Yet their recent "If I can dream" virtual duet received lots and lots of appreciation even from die-hard Elvis fans...

*shudder!*

And I don't even mind Céline Dion. Not very much. But that...

I do think Meheny had a point, anyway. I think, as an artist, one has to have at least an iota of humbleness to put himself in his due place. You could consider Kenny G was paying a tribute to Armstrong if he did his own version of the song, for example, but what he did was consider himself apt to be placed next to Armstrong. It's not just because he's Kenny G; I'm quite sure it'd look bad for any other musician out there.


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Posted: April 14 2008, 04:41

@ Dirk Star - I'm not familiar with The Big Dish, but the best album that Billy Mahonie ever did is (IMHO) What becomes before. I've no idea whether it's still available or not.

@ Sir M. - I don't really want to argue with you about agreeing with Metheny or not :), but my point was that there was no need to make such a fuss over a virtual duet, because virtual duets are very common nowadays; they're just done for commerciality's sake (at least Metheny is right about that...) and most of them are not intended as tributes or homages or anything like that. They're just show. :) In the specific case of the Kenny G - Armstrong duet, I don't even think, as it's been stated, that it was done to bring classic jazz to a wider audience - IMHO it was just intended as a showpiece of what modern technology can do. So why make a fuss over a showpiece?

And anyway it wasn't his idea. It was David Foster's. :D


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Posted: April 14 2008, 06:24

Does anyone listen to EINAUDI - Ludovico Einaudi ?

Fantastico !

I bought the music score and bribed my daughter 100 quid if she would play Melodia Africana III on piano, beautiful.

Le Onde is also a lovely piece.


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Posted: April 14 2008, 09:14

Just read the Metheny essay.  I actually cackled OUT LOUD during the last part of it.  Where did this come from?  The reason I ask is because Metheny is spelled "ny", not "ney".  It would break my heart to find that such a spot-on sh*t-kicking was a fraud.  I suppose if Kenny G had the grapes to respond he'd simply justify it by saying he was only trying to bring the music of Louis Armstrong to a wider audience.  Dude, Louis doesn't need your help.  At the risk of offending: Kenny G's target audience are the affluent disaffected that drive their Escalades into the office for a few hours of shuffling papers around on their desks before heading off for liquid lunches and a quick nine holes all the while thinking that their musical tastes are cutting edge.  Yes, I'm aware I should be expelled for the worst run-on sentence I've ever written.

David Foster?  Don't get me started.  A pox on his loins.

Manufactured duets?  Yeah, contemporary artists CAN do them.  Doesn't mean they should.

Meh.

Okay, I'll shut up now.
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Posted: April 14 2008, 10:40

@ Tayniee: You're right, Ludovico Einaudi is absolutely fantastic, and Giovanni Allevi is too. I forgot to list them in my previous post.

@ Bassman: "trying to bring the music of Louis Armstrong to a wider audience" ? That's how some columnists, according to Wikipedia, reacted to the Kenny G-Armstrong pseudo-duet. Needless to say, I don't agree with that. I still think that it was a purely commercial operation - a 'music to make cash' kind of thing, as they say here in Italy - which had nothing to do with Louis Armstrong or with jazz in general. This is why I thought Metheny's (or Metheney's) reaction to it was very disproportionated. However, I guess I shall shut up now as well, at least on this matter... :D


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Posted: April 14 2008, 11:09

Ugo, I had no idea of the Wikipedia reference!  I laughed my butt off when I looked at the link!  But I hope you're not misunderstanding me.  I am AGREEING with you that the reasons for the "duet" are dubious.  It certainly was a grab for cash, and although Metheny's reasons for opposing it are more "purist" than ours may be, he certainly has the credibility to justify them.

Tayniee, you've inspired me to check out Einaudi.

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Posted: April 14 2008, 12:40

Yeah, I didn't want to piss off anyone yesterday(I'm good at that! For example:Rick Wakeman sucked!! Unless he played with Yes....see? His concept albums were bad, Journey to the Center of the Earth, King Arthur.....crap!! Yes indeedy I can wee wee with the best of them! But Eddy's better.)......but there was no signature at the bottom of the said "Metheny essay", his name was misspelled, it was on a site of a man I never heard of. I've seen PM interviewed many times, he's very freindly, easy to get along with, funny, clever and intelligent. I'm not sure this was a valid document. I don't think he would slam anyone unless it was Marilyn Manson or Rockbitch(whom I do enjoy, at least live on video. They certainly held the audience's attention. A shame they kept getting boycotted.)....but thats just me. Pat Metheny did not write that, I'm 78% certain. I invite "whomever" to provide the proof that it was indeed valid.
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Posted: April 14 2008, 13:00

Well I`m sorry to dissapoint you there Scatterplot but I`m pretty sure the article is 100% bona fide.Or should that be boner fido   ;) I think maybe this link here below looks a bit more like the real deal to me .They`ve got his name right for a start anyway..



Pat on Kenny

I actually first read the article myself a little while back on an xtc fansite.Apparently Richard Thompson played a gig recently where he started talking talking about the article onstage.And then went on to perform a song that he had more or less just made up on the spot entitled "I Agree With Pat Metheny." Thompson did go on to comment that he wished he had Kenny G`s hair though..    :D

XTC Forum Pat Meten(e)y
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Posted: April 14 2008, 13:21

OK, Okay, okayyyy..........I've been getting bored with PM lately anyway. Kind of why I'm into MO more lately. But it all worked out in the end. Most of us want to see Kenny G get a boil on his ass anyway....

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Posted: April 14 2008, 13:34

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OK, Okay, okayyyy..........I've been getting bored with PM lately anyway. Kind of why I'm into MO more lately. But it all worked out in the end. Most of us want to see Kenny G get a boil on his ass anyway....

Well I admit I did find the article a little suprising myself and it did seem a litte extreme for him to say the least.Although after he put out that Zero Tolerance album,there`s obviously some other perspectives to the guy that probablly took a lot of people by surprise.
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Posted: April 14 2008, 14:40

@ Bassman - if you can see the funny side of things, especially regarding music and musicians Wikipedia can be a lot funnier than it's meant to be. :D However, you can be sure I didn't misunderstand you at all. I put the Wikipedia link in because your words were almost exactly reproducing theirs. :)

Back on topic: there are a few all-instrumental soundtracks that I love. Hans Zimmer is my all-time favourite movie composer, even if not all of his stuff is at the same level of Gladiator - to quote just one of his (IMHO) absolute best scores. Apart from Zimmer, I love James Newton Howard's score for The Fugitive, Howard Shore's scores for The Silence of the Lambs and Lord of the Rings (all three films), John Williams' score for the Star Wars trilogy and, of course, all of the Spaghetti Western output of the great maestro Ennio Morricone. ;)


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Posted: April 14 2008, 15:56

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At the risk of offending: Kenny G's target audience are the affluent disaffected that drive their Escalades into the office for a few hours of shuffling papers around on their desks before heading off for liquid lunches and a quick nine holes all the while thinking that their musical tastes are cutting edge.

Bassman, I think your entire post was made of total WIN, but that particular spot was golden. Thanks, dude!

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Posted: April 14 2008, 16:05

I'm just happy that the topic kept going!  Usually my posts are the Kiss Of Death to a thread!

(Now watch... none of you buggers will post anything after this!)
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Posted: April 14 2008, 16:08

P.S.  I'm Canadian.  What's "total WIN"?
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Posted: April 14 2008, 16:32

WIN = victory = contrary of FAIL. Internet memetics. :)

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Posted: April 15 2008, 06:48

Some of my fave instrumental albums:

Casino by Al Di Meola (sample)
Eldorado by Patrick O'Hearn
Final Fantasy Tactics soundtrack (sample)
Suikoden II soundtrack


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Posted: April 15 2008, 07:22

My favourite instrumental albums (besides Mike-alongside whom all else pale) would be JMJ Equinox (better and more complete sounding than Oxygene)and the other big big fave is The Worldes Goodnyte by none other than Les Penning.I corresponded briefly with Mr Penning regarding getting a copy.Basically it went like this....i picked up an old copy of Dark Star from a record fair and i saw an advert for this.Bearing in mind that the advert was a few years old i wrote to the address in Leominster to see if it was available still.A letter arrived saying that yes it was still available but directly from him.It came with a nice little note simply saying "Thanks for your interest".
 I cannot say enough in praise of this cd.It is very folky but is has a very very spiritual atmosphere.If you see it buy it!


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Posted: April 15 2008, 12:25

A few more instrumental faves here...

The Magic Of The Chieftains....The Cheiftains...Despite the fact that I always loved all those Paddy Maloney moments from Mike`s work.Added to which I`ve always had a certain kind of fondness for folk music anyway it took me a very long time to actually get round to buying a Chieftains album.I`m not really sure why that was now,suffice to say I wish I`d done so a lot earlier really because some of their albums are truly superb.This album was actually the first one I bought by them and is in fact just a very unassuming budget compilation of some of their 80`s/early 90`s recordings.Highlights include the opening track O` Mahoney`s Frolics and their haunting rendition of The Strayaway Child.The Van Morrison composition "Boffyflow and Spike" is just a great fun track.While at the other end of the spectrum the 20 minute theme/story exploration of Celtic Wedding is quite breathtaking.Millenium Celtic Suite and Heulliaded Toniou..are great also and come pretty close to emulating Celtic Wedding in their scope of ambition and imagination.As a whole this album contains so much more than that usual thing of sticking a few similar sounding jigs or reels together.Which is a trap a lot of your folk instrumentalist types fall into all too easily at times imo.The Cheiftains being no exception to that sometimes as well.Although they often seem to do it with a lot more thought and regard than many of their contemporaries I feel.Other cracking albums I`d rate highly by them myself are Cheiftains 6,7 and 9,The partly orchestral Ballad Of The Irish Horse.And the Spanish/Galacian influenced Santiago.But there are many other fine examples,too numerous to mention in fact.

Harold Budd & Brian Eno....The Pearl...This was the 2nd Budd and Eno collaboration recorded in the early 80`s but I think this one just about shades it for me.Harold Budd is just one of those one off genius guys to me,who if he can use four/five well placed piano notes to convey a mood or atmosphere rather than a whole encyclopedia of phrases then that`s exactly what  he`ll do.Unfortunatly that does`nt really begin to describe the man`s unique talent or indeed his emotive ability come to that.Maybe the titles of the pieces themselves say it best for me....Late October..Against The Sky...An Echo Of Night...Their Memories...Still Return...Foreshadowed...

James Taylor Quartet....Wait A Minute....As a kid I always loved all of that 60`s/70`s spy detective soundtrack music from the likes of John Barry/Alan Hawkshaw/Roy Budd etc.Coupled with an early fascination with all that swirling unique hammond organ sound that I`d heard from the likes of The Small Faces and Booker T.So when this hammond/60`s/70`s jazz tinged outfit first came to light in the mid 80`s it was like manna sent from heaven for me.This is still probablly their most famous and accessible album,and it kind of marked the dawn of the band branching out a little bit into more ambitous jazz/funked arrangements.The theme tune from Starsky and Hutch never sounded as downright strut your stuff fantastic as it does here.But that`s barely scratching at the surface of the funfilled riff fest in store contained herein.JTQ`s back catalogue has been a real mixed bag of affairs since unfortunatly.Although they have come up with the odd gem here and there no question about it.This was kind of the starting point of my interest in people like Jimmy Smith,Charles Earland,Eumir Deodato,Jimmy McGriff etc.So in that respect it`s an album that I feel eternally indebted to somehow.Still really enjoy listening to it as well though,fantastic stuff.

John Barry....The Beyondness Of Things....There`s been a few great soundtrack composers mentioned in this thread already with the likes of Morricone,Hans Zimmer and Howard Shore etc.Along with Lalo Schifrin though John Barry is probablly my own personal favourite,for me.In the case of Mr Barry I`ve even been known to sit through rubbish like The Specialist or The Black Hole just to listen to the guy`s music.This album in particular was a little bit of a labour of love for him really and is probablly best described as the soundtrack to a film that does`nt exist.Bit of an old chestnut that I know.Except the only thing here is despite it`s lack of a film to go along with the music it still managed to get to number one in the soundtrack chart??To anyone who is a big fan of Mike`s orchestral pieces like Animus/Silhoutte/Aurora on MOTS.Then imho they could certainly do a lot worse than check this album out.

Jaz Coleman......Kashmir(the orchestral music of Led Zeppelin)..Oh no it`s classic rock all over again you`ve got to be kidding right????,,,So ok it sounds pretty naff on the surface,and I dare say for some people it probablly is.Well ya boo to those guys that`s what I say because this album is simply jaw dropping awesome fantastic imo.Jaz Coleman is best known as the frontman of Killing Joke,but is also a classically trained musician of some note.And he`s also spent a lot of time studying orchestral and operatic composition as well as a lot of world/folk music into the bargain.What more can I say the guy can turn his hand to anything imo.Partly of Eastern heritage(some of which is brought to bear on this album) his album with Anne Dudley from The Art Of Noise(Victorious City)was a groundbreaking exploration of Egyptian themes and culture quite unsurpassed imo.This album simply has to be heard to be believed though even if you`re not especially fond of The Zep in fact.The ten minute arrangement of The Battle Of Evermore for instance replete with crying/soaring Uillalean Pipes sounds like it actually was recorded at The Battle Of Evermore.Simply spine tingling stuff.The only let down to the album is the rather lame/limp wristed drum sound of When The Levee Breaks...Which just goes to prove(if proof be needed) that sometimes "Orchestral" does`nt neccessarily instantly mean grander or bigger.Coleman has also done similar albums with both the music of Pink Floyd and The Doors but this one just about shades it for me.Classic rock man...Far out dude!!!
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Posted: April 15 2008, 13:00

It just hit me, why has no one including me(DUMMY!;) mentioned Andrew Latimer/Camel? The Snow Goose.....and many more. Andy Latimer, I swear to God, did some guitar solos that stack up with MO's best, especially the later days. I saw a video of Camel made around 2002-2005, where Latimer did the most heartfelt solo of his career. Some of you might know this DVD, starts out with Latimer and freinds rehearsing in his home. Remarks are made about a chord the keyboard player makes, sounds like "Money" from Pink Floyd. There was a fine companion to have in your CD/DVD collections if you like Mike Oldfield.....Camel!
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Posted: April 16 2008, 07:02

I'm surprised no-one has mentioned Enya yet.  I love all her albums, especially Shepherd Moons and Amarantine.

Divinities by Ian Anderson.  A lot of MO fans seem to appreciate Jethro Tull, and Divinities is Anderson's best solo work, imo.
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