moonchildhippy
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Posted: April 08 2008, 06:16 |
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Quote (Alan D @ April 06 2008, 20:18) | Quote (Sir Mustapha @ April 06 2008, 13:46) | the "sound effects" all have a rhythmic/semantic function and don't sound like defaced aberrations like those things Faust used to do, and the album never interrupts its own flow. |
I expect if I could 'get it' (as I occasionally think possible, as in part 1 of my previous post), I'd be able to agree. But mostly I don't get it (part 2), and so for me the album does indeed interrupt its own flow - time, and time, and time again.
But I'm well aware that whether a piece of music is perceived as music or as noise depends on whether you can get into the right box to listen to it (eg Bob Dylan can be perceived as an astoundingly fine singer if you can get into his box, but shockingly bad if you can't); and since with Amarok I've never managed to get properly into its box, listening to it remains a frustrating experience. So, while on one level I can believe it must be a fine thing (because so many people convincingly describe the powerful positive effect it has on them), I can only hear it for myself as something potentially great, but seriously damaged. |
Yep I agree Alan, with regards to Bob Dylan, I do love some of his more upbeat numbers , such as Subterrainian Homesick Blues, All Along The Watchtower, Like A Rolling Stone, and Knocking On Heaven's Door (OK that one isn't upbeat), to name a few, I do think Bob Dylan can sometimed have a most lugubrious/depressing voice, and sounds depressing. Take for instance his version Of House Of The Rising Sun, I do think is most depressing, OK I know the subject matter isn't meant to be upbeat, but The Animals version isn't depressing at all, I think Alan Price's organ, Eric Burdon's soulful vocals, and also Hilton Valentine's unique guitar picking pattern Am, C,D,F,Am,C,E,E make this song brilliant I'm trying to master that picking pattern , but finding it difficult.
Bobs version http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49IzD9IE5Vc&feature=related
The Animals version http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRV9QCXLtHQ&feature=related The record buying public of 1964 couldn't be wrong as it was a No.1 hit on both sides of the Atlantic. It just seems strange to me that it took groups of guys from London(Brian Jones was Cheltenham born), Newcastle or Liverpool, to take what was American music, (OK not mainstream) to the US, and make the often obscure Bluesmen well known . Didn't Muddy Waters, a big influence on the Rolling Stones once describe the Blues tounge in cheek as being "Nigger Music".
OH sorry I seem to have gone off on another tangent again there. I know one of my neighbours is friends with my friend Val , and he said to her about some of the "weird music" coming from my flat. I know my immidiate neighbours are cool about it as we all like music ourselves, and do sometimes play it a bit loud. I enjoy music that thinks outside of the box, to me the box is for manufactured talentlesss one hit wonders such as those on that X Factor thing, that to me is not real music. I would say that the vast majority of Mike's music is thinking outside of the box. I love his long instrumentals, but Amarok is one I can't quite get my head round, and I find a bit scary . I don't know why, is it 'cause I was expecting it to be Ommadawn2, and to me it sounds nothing like Ommadawn. is it because I nearly crashed my car whilst listening to it for the first time. No matter how I try I can't get into it, I can hear moments of beauty, but then Mike suddenly seems to throw a "tantrum".
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