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Pat Gleeson Group: Members Posts: 282 Joined: Nov. 2003 Posted: May 28 2009, 16:16 Quote (dobyblue @ May 28 2009, 16:09) it may have been a firmware issue with your player. I love both formats, and I would say it's a firmware issue. I had a Pioneer DVD / DVD-A / SACD Player which refused to play the MLP Losses audio from my Simple Minds DVD-Audio. It took so long to sort out the firmware issue I ended getting a new player from Pioneer with 4 free DVD-A discs. If the discs have an 'Advanced Resolution' logo on them somewhere, that would confirm they are DVD-A discs, and not just conventional DVD's with 5.1 or DTS surround tracks. DVD-A See top right of picture. Back to top

Bassman Group: Members Posts: 548 Joined: Feb. 2008 Posted: May 30 2009, 13:05 In my opinion, Universal made a grotty mess of the whole reissue.  From the track listing, to the availability of the signed copies, to the dubious bell-ringing event, not to mention the release date itself.. it's all starting to take on the faint whiff of tricky-dicky marketing.  I don't think my expectations were unrealistically high, as I would have had a far more generous opinion (and wallet) if any of the above issues were done right. As an enthusiast of MO's music (and that's all that should matter, anyway), it really came down to just one factor for me:  No "Exorcist" remix (OR it's accompanying B-side) + no "Froggy Went A-Courting = no money coming out of my pocket. Deluxe editions?  What a load of bollocks.  Torrents, here I come. Again, just my opinion. -------------- Turn up the music... Hi as Fi can go. Back to top

Hifiguru Group: Members Posts: 275 Joined: Aug. 2002 Posted: May 30 2009, 18:22 interesting promo http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190311249179 i guess each of them are numbered and named to certain person on label -------------- -TB Limited ultimate edition 2009 (still sealed) -Hergest Ridge Limited 2010 #017 -Ommadawn Limited 2010 #065 -Incantations Limited 2011 #003 -Platinum Limited 2012 #316 -QE2 Limited 2012 #112 -Opening Ceremony London 2012 #61 -Five Miles Out 2013 Limited LP #116 -Crises 2013 Limited LP #259 Back to top

Bassman Group: Members Posts: 548 Joined: Feb. 2008 Posted: May 30 2009, 20:50 I found it very interesting that on the promo pictured, "MO's Single" was listed at a 3:56 duration, while the actual track released in 1974 is 4:36 (give or take a few seconds). Jeez-Louise, did these prats get anything right? Brace yourself Mona Lisa... yer gettin' a nose job. -------------- Turn up the music... Hi as Fi can go. Back to top

Korgscrew Group: Super Admins Posts: 3511 Joined: Dec. 1999 Posted: May 30 2009, 20:59 No, they got nothing right at all. It all sucks and get this - they're going to do the same to all Mike's other albums, over a period of what may be several years...and it's all going to be just as crap as this, so you might as well save yourself the torture and just leave now. Back to top

Bassman Group: Members Posts: 548 Joined: Feb. 2008 Posted: May 30 2009, 21:05 @ Korgscrew. Surely you're not suggesting that a big, multinational corporation like Universal Music cannot bear up under honest, critical scrutiny from the people that helped put one of their clients in the position he currently enjoys? Surely not. -------------- Turn up the music... Hi as Fi can go. Back to top

Korgscrew Group: Super Admins Posts: 3511 Joined: Dec. 1999 Posted: May 30 2009, 23:10 No, I'm not suggesting that at all. Back to top

wiga Group: Members Posts: 2113 Joined: Sep. 2008 Posted: May 30 2009, 23:17 Quote (Bassman @ May 30 2009, 20:50) I found it very interesting that on the promo pictured, "MO's Single" was listed at a 3:56 duration, while the actual track released in 1974 is 4:36 (give or take a few seconds). Jeez-Louise, did these prats get anything right? Brace yourself Mona Lisa... yer gettin' a nose job. That seems like a useful and legitimate concern to me - and needs flagging up. -------------- Barn's burnt down - now I can see the moon. Back to top

Korgscrew Group: Super Admins Posts: 3511 Joined: Dec. 1999 Posted: May 30 2009, 23:33 Yes, indeed. Putting it as a question "is this a typo, have they shortened it, or has this been made from a different tape from the V2001 release?" might have elicited a different reaction... It wouldn't be the first time a typo has been made on a promo of that nature (or even on a release version...), but equally, the remix might really be a different length. I don't know the answer, but I can ask if people are interested - we do have a reasonable relationship with the people who are running the project, so we can always try to get information if people here want it...or we can just call them prats and not bother. The latter involves far less work. Back to top

wiga Group: Members Posts: 2113 Joined: Sep. 2008 Posted: May 31 2009, 01:15 Prats? - yes, some genuine exasperation going on I guess - nothing wrong with a bit of that. I recall you saying something a bit stronger yourself this week Korgscrew   Keep Cool Y'all I for one am looking forward to Saturday and up for some bell ringing   -------------- Barn's burnt down - now I can see the moon. Back to top

bob Group: Members Posts: 45 Joined: Dec. 2008 Posted: May 31 2009, 04:07 [QUOTE]interesting promo http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190311249179 I cannot believe that there are no bids for this yet Bob Back to top

Ugo Group: Members Posts: 5495 Joined: April 2000 Posted: May 31 2009, 06:35 @ bob: actually there's one bid - mine. I put in 12 pounds. Not bad, I think. @ Richard/Korgscrew: as I'm close to actually buying the item (unless someone outbids me, which is not unlikely) I would be interested about whether this a typo or not. I do know that typos are all over the place... the back cover of my copy of Iron Maiden's Piece of Mind CD lists "The Trooper" as having a duration of 3'56'', when the actual song is 4'12''. And it's the remastered edition. -------------- Ugo C. - a devoted Amarokian Back to top

smillsoid Group: Members Posts: 548 Joined: Dec. 2008 Posted: May 31 2009, 09:16 Moan moan moan (xn)... -------------- http://www.reverbnation.com/simonjmills Back to top

Hifiguru Group: Members Posts: 275 Joined: Aug. 2002 Posted: May 31 2009, 09:56 whoever is lucky (=rich enough) to get that promo, they can listen full album before actual release. i guess that preorders will be shipped monday 8th so UK customers will receive them 9th-> and like me i have to wait 3-5 days so i expect it by end of that week. -------------- -TB Limited ultimate edition 2009 (still sealed) -Hergest Ridge Limited 2010 #017 -Ommadawn Limited 2010 #065 -Incantations Limited 2011 #003 -Platinum Limited 2012 #316 -QE2 Limited 2012 #112 -Opening Ceremony London 2012 #61 -Five Miles Out 2013 Limited LP #116 -Crises 2013 Limited LP #259 Back to top

Nacho Group: Members Posts: 230 Joined: Feb. 2000 Posted: May 31 2009, 13:37 Quote (Ugo @ May 31 2009, 12:35) @ bob: actually there's one bid - mine. I put in 12 pounds. Not bad, I think. @ Richard/Korgscrew: as I'm close to actually buying the item (unless someone outbids me, which is not unlikely) I would be interested about whether this a typo or not. I do know that typos are all over the place... the back cover of my copy of Iron Maiden's Piece of Mind CD lists "The Trooper" as having a duration of 3'56'', when the actual song is 4'12''. And it's the remastered edition. It is not a typo, it lasts 3:56! Back to top

Ugo Group: Members Posts: 5495 Joined: April 2000 Posted: May 31 2009, 13:49 @ Nacho: what piece are you referring to? "M.O.'s Single" or "The Trooper" ? The album version of the latter song lasts for 4 minutes and 12 seconds. It's also like that on the vinyl edition of Piece of Mind which I also have, but which doesn't list song durations. -------------- Ugo C. - a devoted Amarokian Back to top

Nacho Group: Members Posts: 230 Joined: Feb. 2000 Posted: May 31 2009, 13:55 MO's Single   Back to top

Blue Dolphin Group: Members Posts: 1232 Joined: Nov. 1999 Posted: May 31 2009, 15:57 I still think it's a shame they didn't include Froggy-went-a-courting in the set! It could have been a great oppertunity for this release. Oh well... -------------- -The mark of a good musician is to play one note and mean it- Mike Oldfield - 1980 Back to top

Nacho Group: Members Posts: 230 Joined: Feb. 2000 Posted: May 31 2009, 17:03 Quote (Blue Dolphin @ May 31 2009, 21:57) I still think it's a shame they didn't include Froggy-went-a-courting in the set! It could have been a great oppertunity for this release. Oh well... It could be included with Hergest Ridge. There isn't a lot of extras of 1974 to be included in a future release... Back to top

Ugo Group: Members Posts: 5495 Joined: April 2000 Posted: May 31 2009, 18:37 @ Nacho: the version of "M.O.'s Single" I have on the Singles & Rarities FLAC compilation is 4'36''. How do you know that the mix on the promo is actually 3'56''? Have you actually got the promo? If so, lucky you!! -------------- Ugo C. - a devoted Amarokian Back to top

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