moonchildhippy
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Posted: Jan. 04 2009, 18:13 |
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Quote (olracUK @ Jan. 04 2009, 19:52) | But what is prog? And is Mike really prog? Yes there were the similarities to traditional classical music structures, a lot of notes and complicated time patterns. And he had that obsession with perfecting every note, studying the technicalities, using the latest technology. He even had the long hair and Jesus beard at one point. And, admittedly he did the whole "run to the country to get it together" thing.
But "prog rock"? Surely he had too many good tunes to be called that! |
Precisely!!! What exactly is Prog?? .
I would say that much of Mike's early work could be regarded as being prog, I would also say that Amarok is purely exprimental Prog.
For me I would say that the first pure Prog album would have to be King Crimson's In The Court Of The Crimson King. ELP would have to be pure prog, but they also wrote some brilliant short tunes. Then again early Queen could be regarded as Prog, but "The Prophets Song" Queen's longest piece is just over eight mins in length, short compared to much Prog. "Doing Alright and also "Father To Son" to name two songs that spring to mind have changing time sigs/ styles often featured in Prog, as do many songs feature operaatic style vocals, so they have the influence of classical music. Much of Freddie Mercury's lyrics were inspired by reading Tolkien, "My Fairy King" "March Of The Black Queen" and "Seven Seas Of Rhye" given that Rhy could have been Freddie's Tolkien inspired land . I doubt with Queen if anyone else could have pulled off such a combination, to combine mainstream Rock with Prog and also Glam , and for calling the band Queen, I guess it depends upon hhow you see the name Queen, as "queen" was often used as a negative term for gay/effeminate men, or Queen also sounds very grand/regal, and of course there were accusations that Prog became so overblown and pretentious, but Queen could put on a stage show.
Speaking of Prog I did mention my neighbour as was Bob, he had MS and died age 44, anyway he lent myself and my then husband a box of LP's featuring the likes of "Caravan" and also Kevin Ayers (and the Whole World), I didn't put 2 and 2 together at the time and realise Mike Oldfield was the same Mike Oldfield who we discuss his music on here. I know Bob introduced me to some of the "Canterbury Scene" bands. I've been playing some Caravan on You Tube. I know i did tape the Caravan Lp's off of Bob, and my ex has the casettes, (before the days of the internet, and knowing about the back catalogue of Caravan). I'll have to build up my collection of Caravan, when I've more cash to spare .
http://www.caravan-info.co.uk/news/
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