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ImAFoolAndImLaughing Group: Members Posts: 536 Joined: Feb. 2006 Posted: May 16 2006, 12:28 Been trying to work this out - what are the synthesized vocals on Angelique supposed to be singing? Doesn't sound anything like "Angelique" It sounds like a very surprised someone saying..."B****r Me!" but that can't be right, surely...! Tony -------------- "I was in this prematurely air conditioned supermarket and there were these bathing caps you could buy that had these kind of Fourth of July plumes on them that were red and yellow and blue and I wasn't tempted to buy one but I was reminded of the fact that I had been avoiding the beach." Back to top

hiawatha Group: Members Posts: 2391 Joined: Mar. 2004 Posted: May 16 2006, 14:57 This has been discussed at length before, but I hope this item isn't killed/pruned.... just for the sake of actually having some current discussion of Mike's latest work for a change. -------------- "In the land of the Dacotahs, Where the Falls of Minnehaha Flash and gleam among the oak-trees, Laugh and leap into the valley." - Song of Hiawatha Back to top

Piltdownboy on horseback 22 Group: Members Posts: 1545 Joined: Sep. 2005 Posted: May 17 2006, 06:56 i found out that it really is saying Angelique, although it's practically unidentifiable. Still, near the end of the song it is clearer to hear that the computer really is saying Angelique, and not 'burger meat' -------------- "And now we're going to play Platinum!" Back to top

larstangmark Group: Members Posts: 1759 Joined: Mar. 2005 Posted: May 17 2006, 09:29 I keep hearing "Barkarby, barkarby"! (only funny in Sweden) -------------- "There are twelve people in the world, the rest are paste" Mark E Smith Back to top

Piltdownboy on horseback 22 Group: Members Posts: 1545 Joined: Sep. 2005 Posted: May 17 2006, 09:36 hehehe... tell us Or is it a dirty word???       -------------- "And now we're going to play Platinum!" Back to top

larstangmark Group: Members Posts: 1759 Joined: Mar. 2005 Posted: May 17 2006, 10:59 Quote (Piltdownboy on horseback 22 @ May 17 2006, 09:36) hehehe... tell us Or is it a dirty word???       It's an unremarkable suburb of Stockholm!   -------------- "There are twelve people in the world, the rest are paste" Mark E Smith Back to top

Piltdownboy on horseback 22 Group: Members Posts: 1545 Joined: Sep. 2005 Posted: May 17 2006, 12:38 Hmmm... hehe ok I thought it was a joke... but this is not something indeed to impress your friends with on a saturday night -------------- "And now we're going to play Platinum!" Back to top

larstangmark Group: Members Posts: 1759 Joined: Mar. 2005 Posted: May 17 2006, 15:43 Quote (Piltdownboy on horseback 22 @ May 17 2006, 12:38) Hmmm... hehe ok I thought it was a joke... but this is not something indeed to impress your friends with on a saturday night Propably not! As I said, it's only (slightly) funny in Sweden. Even if you translate it the point gets lost. Imagine Vangelis paying tribute to Barking (or Reading for that matter). Anyway, it doesn't sound a thing like "Angelique"! -------------- "There are twelve people in the world, the rest are paste" Mark E Smith Back to top

Piltdownboy on horseback 22 Group: Members Posts: 1545 Joined: Sep. 2005 Posted: May 17 2006, 15:57 You're right... so maybe the computer vocals on that song were not quite a good idea, imo, though I like the track -------------- "And now we're going to play Platinum!" Back to top

Inkanta Group: Admins Posts: 1453 Joined: Feb. 2000 Posted: May 17 2006, 23:23 Quote (hiawatha @ May 16 2006, 13:57) This has been discussed at length before, but I hope this item isn't killed/pruned.... just for the sake of actually having some current discussion of Mike's latest work for a change. Quickly looking, I didn't find it, but I know it's there, someplace. When I have more time to look for the older topic I might combine them, but I have a feeling that it is buried in a thread broader than  "Angelique," which might make it silly to merge. I can delete individual posts, but cannot move them to more appropriate fora or topics, so.....when I find it I will probably post a link to the earlier topic so that you can quickly get to the other comments (unless someone else locates it in the meantime and wants to do the honors). -------------- "No such thing as destiny; only choices exist." From:  Moongarden's "Solaris." Back to top

Tubularman Group: Awaiting Authorisation Posts: 2304 Joined: June 2004 Posted: May 18 2006, 09:13 i must be the only one who hear Angelique.. Or maybe Angel-isue -------------- Mike Oldfield M i x e s https://soundcloud.com/tubularman Back to top

trcanberra Group: Members Posts: 349 Joined: Jan. 2008 Posted: Mar. 27 2008, 03:31 Quote (Tubularman @ May 18 2006, 09:13) i must be the only one who hear Angelique.. Or maybe Angel-isue Sorry, but it definitely starts with a B.  Maybe a foreign word? Thought it was Burger King at first   Anyone done any more work on this (can someone ask Mike)? Back to top

Ugo Group: Members Posts: 5495 Joined: April 2000 Posted: Mar. 27 2008, 04:34 It doesn't start with a B at all. It's Angayleek, Angayleek. -------------- Ugo C. - a devoted Amarokian Back to top

Sir Mustapha Group: Musicians Posts: 2802 Joined: April 2003 Posted: Mar. 28 2008, 14:25 Quote (Ugo @ Mar. 27 2008, 04:34) It doesn't start with a B at all. It's Angayleek, Angayleek. Exactly, which is Computermanglese for "Angelique". Besides, it makes sense that that's the word the computer is singing, because there are, what, 6 songs in that album in which the song title is murmured pointlessly during the song. "Sunset", the voice whispers tonelessly. "Yes, I GET it," I reply, "I do read the song titles". "Ssslipsssstream", the computer croaks... "... your point being...?", I say. -------------- Check out http://ferniecanto.com.br for all my music, including my latest albums: Don't Stay in the City, Making Amends and Builders of Worlds. Also check my Bandcamp page: http://ferniecanto.bandcamp.com Back to top

Alan D Group: Members Posts: 3670 Joined: Aug. 2004 Posted: Mar. 28 2008, 17:08 Quote (Sir Mustapha @ Mar. 28 2008, 18:25) there are, what, 6 songs in that album in which the song title is murmured pointlessly during the song. "Sunset", the voice whispers tonelessly. "Yes, I GET it," I reply, "I do read the song titles". "Ssslipsssstream", the computer croaks... "... your point being...?", I say. It only seems ridiculous if you think the listener is being deliberately reminded of the title - because that would indeed be pointless. But maybe the title came at the end, driven by the composition process, and not at the beginning. I imagine him putting this piece together, and he's playing with the virtual vocal software and the musical effect of various words; and he finds that the word 'slipstream' seems to fit, and seems to match the rest of the music, so he puts that in at various points, and likes the sound. And then, at the end, he has the complete piece, with this word 'slipstream' built in as part of its fabric. So he calls it 'Slipstream'. Looked at in that way, it doesn't seem pointless - well, no more pointless than most titles seem, anyway. Back to top

Sir Mustapha Group: Musicians Posts: 2802 Joined: April 2003 Posted: Mar. 28 2008, 20:13 Quote (Alan D @ Mar. 28 2008, 17:08) It only seems ridiculous if you think the listener is being deliberately reminded of the title - because that would indeed be pointless. But maybe the title came at the end, driven by the composition process, and not at the beginning. I imagine him putting this piece together, and he's playing with the virtual vocal software and the musical effect of various words; and he finds that the word 'slipstream' seems to fit, and seems to match the rest of the music, so he puts that in at various points, and likes the sound. And then, at the end, he has the complete piece, with this word 'slipstream' built in as part of its fabric. So he calls it 'Slipstream'. Looked at in that way, it doesn't seem pointless - well, no more pointless than most titles seem, anyway. That seems plausible. I don't doubt a similar process happened with Resolution, and of course, both Tears of an Angel and Surfing have full-fledged lyrics, so they're beyond questioning. I still find the case of Sunset unforgivable, though... To me, at least, it's clear that the tune was either inspired by or designed to evoke a sunset, with the "hovering in mid-air" pad synths, the air between the notes and everything. If the tune really sounds like a sunset transcribed into music (and I say, even to my standards, it's pretty darn close), that should suffice. But the whispered, tuneless, off-beat "sunset" is like Mike is making sure that we'll all know what he was trying to do. A little bit of confidence never hurts, eh? Besides, if the song doesn't sound like sunset to some people and sounds like something else entirely, what's the matter? It wasn't a Kraftwerk album, was it? -------------- Check out http://ferniecanto.com.br for all my music, including my latest albums: Don't Stay in the City, Making Amends and Builders of Worlds. Also check my Bandcamp page: http://ferniecanto.bandcamp.com Back to top

Dirk Star Group: Members Posts: 1331 Joined: Sep. 2007 Posted: Mar. 28 2008, 22:09 Well it still sounds like Burger meat to me,no matter how hard I`ve tried to convince my eardrums otherwise..The great thing about that whole umix thing was you could remove all that scrambled up gobbledeegook for good.But then somehow it would still be there,trapped inside my sub-conscious.Like some whispering tormented ghoul with a very bad speech impediment.And I would find myself waking up in a cold sweat during the night screaming at the top of my lungs.."Go away I`m a f***kin vegetarian." Aside from Angelique though I can`t say I found any of those other singing title tracks particularly annoying or jarring in any way.It`s not a new thing after all. Mr Vangelis has been known to do that sort of thing from time to time.William Orbit is another one that springs to mind with that whole"stripped down song that never existed" thing he has going on sometimes.Even old Mikey himself was to be found "Guilty" of it as far back as 1979. I can see how these things can wind some people up a little bit sometimes though.It`s kind of like watching a James Bond film I suppose.And you just know that at some point during the movie they`re gonna` figure out a way to shoehorn that title in there..... "Ah!Mr Bond..I just about shit me pants there.You scared The Living Daylights out of me!" Keep your eyes peeled for the forthcoming presentation,where James Bond will return in "The Quantum Of Solace."????...And people wonder why all those Hollywood scriptwriters went on strike! Back to top

Sir Mustapha Group: Musicians Posts: 2802 Joined: April 2003 Posted: Mar. 29 2008, 00:15 Off-topic: well, I'll be darned, but if The Quantum of Solace is any good as Casino Royale, then I'll definitely be looking forwards to it. -------------- Check out http://ferniecanto.com.br for all my music, including my latest albums: Don't Stay in the City, Making Amends and Builders of Worlds. Also check my Bandcamp page: http://ferniecanto.bandcamp.com Back to top

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