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Question: Treslunas best ever mike album? :: Total Votes:137 Poll choices Votes Statistics yes 9  [6.57%] no 128  [93.43%] Guests cannot vote

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raven4x4x Group: Members Posts: 1535 Joined: Jan. 2002 Posted: Dec. 24 2002, 22:43 I just got Tres Lunas for Christmas (finally) and I can't say that it is his best album. It's a pretty good album, but I haven't listened to it enough to determine standout tracks or anything. But no, not his best, but not his worst either. It's up in the 'good' list, though. -------------- Thank-you for helping us help you help us all. Back to top

liz197 Group: Members Posts: 40 Joined: Jan. 2003 Posted: Jan. 24 2003, 06:08 no i would say tres lunas, followed by incantations followed by tubular bells 3 Back to top

MO fan Group: Members Posts: 177 Joined: Nov. 2002 Posted: April 02 2003, 14:27 I voted 'No to Tres lunas' along with the majority of you, so far. There are some good bits and some great bits, but overall it does not have a joined-up feel to it. In fact (though I should not really say it) I like 'Tres Lunas 2' and 'Return to the Origon' MP3's better. Thanks to this site having them available to download. I will (if I find the time) try to bring the best of all three, into one edited version, then it will be better. My all time MO favorite album is still 'Incantations'. its hard to beat. Cheers MO fan Back to top

Holger Group: Members Posts: 1506 Joined: Feb. 2003 Posted: April 02 2003, 14:55 No offence, but the answer is no way!! Back to top

MO fan Group: Members Posts: 177 Joined: Nov. 2002 Posted: April 02 2003, 16:28 Quote (Holger @ April 02 2003, 14:55) No offence, but the answer is no way!! None taken, what your best then? Back to top

Holger Group: Members Posts: 1506 Joined: Feb. 2003 Posted: April 03 2003, 02:15 I usually state it like this: 1. Ommadawn 2. Incantations 3. Hergest Ridge Back to top

MO fan Group: Members Posts: 177 Joined: Nov. 2002 Posted: April 03 2003, 07:52 Quote (Holger @ April 03 2003, 02:15) I usually state it like this: 1. Ommadawn 2. Incantations 3. Hergest Ridge Yes! The early albums were brilliant. I have Ommadawn in the car CD player, right now. Cheers MO fan Back to top

timshen Group: Members Posts: 684 Joined: Mar. 2001 Posted: April 03 2003, 08:35 I'd agree that Tres Lunas 2 MP3s are better overall than the Tres Lunas album IMHO. I love the Owl Cavern sequence and it's made even more alive when playing MVR (which  the music was designed for). My order of top three MO albums would be... 1. Ommadawn 2. TB2 3. TB3 -------------- Expect Great Things. Attempt Great Things. Back to top

double Unregistered Posted: June 13 2003, 11:07 Yes, one of the best ! BUT.... but by first listening, i have hate the sampled saxsound (why not use a fuzz guitar ???) : now, i accepted it... Back to top

Mike Chadwick Group: Members Posts: 231 Joined: May 2003 Posted: Aug. 15 2003, 09:07 my top 3 1.TUBULAR BELLS 2.OMMADAWN (and AMAROK) 3.INCANTATIONS -------------- kik-eze kik-eze Back to top

Taurus Outcast Group: Members Posts: 69 Joined: June 2004 Posted: June 13 2004, 05:34 if anything, its one of the worst! sounds like music in a lift/elevator. and whats with the sax guitar? i admit tres lunas is certainly different, but its down there at the bottom with earth moving in my opinion! Back to top

Sir Mustapha Group: Musicians Posts: 2802 Joined: April 2003 Posted: June 13 2004, 09:41 I, personally, can't see why it should be any worst than Tubular Bells II. Heck, to me, it's even more decent than Guitars - at least it doesn't have a dumb concept and "Out Of Sight". But Tr3s Lunas is just that, "decent". Just that, nothing more. Yes, I agree that it nears lift music, but that is a cruel thing to say, even to me... and it's just a bit similar to Songs Of Distant Earth, but the vibe is far different. And sorry, but I hate the songs in the Tr3s Lunas 2 compilation. I have never seen such ugly abominations under the name of Mike Oldfield before. -------------- Check out http://ferniecanto.com.br for all my music, including my latest albums: Don't Stay in the City, Making Amends and Builders of Worlds. Also check my Bandcamp page: http://ferniecanto.bandcamp.com Back to top

Alan D Group: Members Posts: 3670 Joined: Aug. 2004 Posted: Nov. 04 2004, 11:00 I was listening to Tr3s Lunas this morning after a gap of a few weeks; and thinking back to that experience on seeing this poll, several things seem worth saying. 1. I haven't a clue which album is 'best'. My favourite changes all the time (often it's the one I'm listening to at the moment), and sometimes it's Tr3s Lunas. But which one is 'best' seems an unanswerable question. 2. The Tr3s Lunas music hardly ever fails to lift my spirits. It makes me feel good. It fills my mind with a thousand beautiful images that have become associated with it through playing the game. Its themes haunt me when I'm not listening to it, and return like familar friends when I play the CD; yet, as with the best of friends, they always succeed in coming up fresh and new despite that easy familiarity. 3. It may not be the 'best' Mike album, but surely, surely, for me it is a contender for the most beautiful. There are many pieces of music that I enjoy - that excite me, that move me, in varying degrees - but there are perhaps not so many that I could honestly say I love. Tr3s Lunas is certainly one of them. 4. Some may say that my response to the music has been too much affected by association with playing the game and that this has generated an over-enthusiam for what may be only a mediocre piece in itself. But you could just as easily say that my love of Elgar or Vaughan Williams has been too much affected by association with the English landscape. Not so. Bad music simply can't sustain this degree of involvement. I couldn't cope without this album now. It (and the game) changed me, and my perceptions, permanently. One of my desert island discs..... Back to top

reclspeak Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: Oct. 2004 Posted: Dec. 07 2004, 08:15 I'm afraid I hated it. I gave it two listens and thought it was a little lacking in the complexity and melody side for a MO album. I sold it to a second-hand CD/bookshop a week later. I've never disposed of an MO release before (I still have my Hergest Ridge vinyl I got as a 14-year-old with the dodgy pressing it got during the Oil Crisis). Tr3s Lunas just didn't register with me - I thought of it as uninspiring lift musak. By means of reference, my favourites are Incantations, Hergest Ridge (wonderful pastoral music that puts MO up with the best English classical composers of two centuries) and TSODE. Back to top

Alan D Group: Members Posts: 3670 Joined: Aug. 2004 Posted: Dec. 07 2004, 09:45 Quote (reclspeak @ Dec. 07 2004, 13:15) I gave it two listens ... I sold it to a second-hand CD/bookshop a week later I can't help but feel that might be too hasty..... Quote I thought of it as uninspiring lift musak. Obviously it did fail to inspire you, and that's the way it goes. But to describe it as musak is unjust. Quote my favourites are Incantations, Hergest Ridge (wonderful pastoral music that puts MO up with the best English classical composers of two centuries) and TSODE. I think those choices are bang on the money, and reinforce my view that you gave up too soon on Tres Lunas. Also, you could try playing the game, which will certainly change the way you listen to the music. Back to top

hiawatha Group: Members Posts: 2391 Joined: Mar. 2004 Posted: Dec. 07 2004, 09:55 The "muzak" description is not far off the mark: much of the music has a sameness and "background" quality to it. Perhaps this is a quality of "chill out music". I'm not even sure what that is, except that Tr3s Lunas is supposed to be an example of it. No screaming climax of "Ommadawn" or discordant intro of "Amarok" here.  The presence of a caveman or klingon would also have negated the "muzak" label. Not that there is anything wrong with that: I don't think this is a weakness of Tr3s Lunas, an album I quite like (even if I am sure it is not "the best ever"). I also rank HR and Incantations at the very top. I've never disposed of an Oldfield release. At this time, I can't think of an album or song I'd rather he'd not done at all. -------------- "In the land of the Dacotahs, Where the Falls of Minnehaha Flash and gleam among the oak-trees, Laugh and leap into the valley." - Song of Hiawatha Back to top

Alan D Group: Members Posts: 3670 Joined: Aug. 2004 Posted: Dec. 07 2004, 12:58 Quote (hiawatha @ Dec. 07 2004, 14:55) The "muzak" description is not far off the mark: much of the music has a sameness and "background" quality to it. It's true that there are no majestic climaxes or weird grunts, etc. - but that still doesn't mean it's 'musak'. 'Musak' implies a kind of vacuousness; something that can't sustain serious listening. But although it's true that Tres Lunas can be used merely as a mood-setter (as can much of the music of Vaughan Williams, for instance! ), I still find it very rewarding just to listen to and do nothing else. But I say again - remember, I am infatuated by the game; by the virtual land from which the music comes. And I'm sure that makes a big difference. Back to top

Sir Mustapha Group: Musicians Posts: 2802 Joined: April 2003 Posted: Dec. 08 2004, 06:45 Quote (hiawatha @ Dec. 07 2004, 09:55) The "muzak" description is not far off the mark: much of the music has a sameness and "background" quality to it. Perhaps this is a quality of "chill out music". I'm not even sure what that is, except that Tr3s Lunas is supposed to be an example of it. I always found that "chill out" definition quite stupid. To me, it seems to be a quality of relaxing, calm music, but that requires the artist to use the exact kind of rhythm, the exact kind of synth tones and the exact kind of sketches of melodies. I find it a very narrow thing, and the kind of sounds used in Tres Lunas does give it a muzak quality, especially the faux-saxophone. But actually, I find some of the tracks more than decent. 'Turtle Island', 'Return To The Origin', 'Firefly' and even the Eric Satie "Trois Gymnopèdies" rip-off 'Daydream' (note: don't take that seriously) are quite special. I think the album is quite ok. -------------- Check out http://ferniecanto.com.br for all my music, including my latest albums: Don't Stay in the City, Making Amends and Builders of Worlds. Also check my Bandcamp page: http://ferniecanto.bandcamp.com Back to top

Alan D Group: Members Posts: 3670 Joined: Aug. 2004 Posted: Dec. 08 2004, 07:02 Quote (Sir Mustapha @ Dec. 08 2004, 11:45) I think the album is quite ok. Blimey, Sir M!! Have you played the game? And if so, did it change your view of the music? The 'chilling out' label is fine, surely? The narrowness is in your definition, not the label - which merely establishes in advance that there are going to be no extremes of emotion or expression in what you hear. And that's what you get - there's nothing seriously disturbing in Tres Lunas; and there are many times when I'm grateful for that. Back to top

Sir Mustapha Group: Musicians Posts: 2802 Joined: April 2003 Posted: Dec. 08 2004, 08:26 Nope, I haven't played the game. I have no idea what I might think about it, since I have never played anything similar. The closest I've been to the game is the Tr3s Lunas II compilation, which I'm not attracted to at all. But the game could make a difference, indeed. Truthfully, I'm no specialist in "Chill Out", but for what I heard about it, it's pretty specific. There are many kinds of music that are calm, relaxed, and have no kind of disturbance or edge to it. But since a label called "Chill Out" exists, it must have a reason - and it seems to be used to determine exactly the kind of music that clubbers listen to relax. It's the aural opposite to Techno music - but the sound and production is very similar. To me, it gives the impression that those people who go to Rave parties and such can't listen to Brian Eno or Harold Budd - no, they have to listen to CHILL OUT, and that's why the "genre" exists. It all just sounds a bit silly to me, I dunno. I didn't mean to criticise the music. -------------- Check out http://ferniecanto.com.br for all my music, including my latest albums: Don't Stay in the City, Making Amends and Builders of Worlds. Also check my Bandcamp page: http://ferniecanto.bandcamp.com Back to top

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