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Incantations Group: Members Posts: 157 Joined: May 2010 Posted: July 25 2010, 19:01 Before a listen that I just did of Hergest Ridge, I have never taken an extremely deep note of the end of Part 2, besides the very end, which reminds me a bit of the end of GAtes of Delirium by Yes. Ok, I'm getting sidetracked... What really stuck out on this listen was that abrubt transition from the thunderstom  sections trance-like qualities to the ends reiterations or Part 1's beauty, I think that is what Hergest Ridge is all about. That abrubt transition just feels so mystical, like a huge gust of awesome sweeping you off your feet. Anyway, that is all that I really wanted to say, thanks for reading -------------- Hmm... Back to top

familyjules Group: Members Posts: 1190 Joined: May 2004 Posted: July 26 2010, 06:40 Quote (Incantations @ July 25 2010, 19:01) Before a listen that I just did of Hergest Ridge, I have never taken an extremely deep note of the end of Part 2, besides the very end, which reminds me a bit of the end of GAtes of Delirium by Yes. What an awful thing to say!  Take it back at once!   Jules -------------- I like beer and I like cheese Back to top

InsideOfYou Group: Members Posts: 33 Joined: July 2010 Posted: July 26 2010, 17:50 Actually HR to a certain extent reminds me of Yes' "Tales From Topographic Oceans" - that pastoral 'thing' Back to top

Incantations Group: Members Posts: 157 Joined: May 2010 Posted: July 26 2010, 18:43 Well, I just ment those concluding notes that resolve that epic war, and I can see how it reminds you of TFTO, besides "The Ancient", which does vaguely resemble "thunderstorm", yet only in its standout intensity. -------------- Hmm... Back to top

familyjules Group: Members Posts: 1190 Joined: May 2004 Posted: July 27 2010, 08:53 Quote (InsideOfYou @ July 26 2010, 17:50) Actually HR to a certain extent reminds me of Yes' "Tales From Topographic Oceans" Will you all please quit insulting Hergest Ridge! Jules -------------- I like beer and I like cheese Back to top

nightspore Group: Members Posts: 4761 Joined: Mar. 2008 Posted: July 27 2010, 09:06 Actually, HR reminds me of Fragile - just joking!   Back to top

Michael Hilton Group: Members Posts: 255 Joined: Oct. 2007 Posted: July 27 2010, 10:37 Quote (Incantations @ July 26 2010, 08:01) What really stuck out on this listen was that abrubt transition from the thunderstom  sections trance-like qualities to the ends reiterations or Part 1's beauty, I think that is what Hergest Ridge is all about. That abrubt transition just feels so mystical, like a huge gust of awesome sweeping you off your feet. Anyway, that is all that I really wanted to say, thanks for reading It's always been my favourite Especially the thunderstorm transitions...and a bit Yes-ish     Back to top

Incantations Group: Members Posts: 157 Joined: May 2010 Posted: July 27 2010, 18:55 And I am guessing a certain Jules is not a fan of Yes? A shame, as Yes is the utter apitamy of not-Mike Oldfield music that is still good (with Genesis close behind ). The only things I am describing similar between Yessongs and Hergest Ridge is the laid-backness of HR which is the same vibe emitted from TFTO, and the last notes seem to conclude the album as the last notes of Gates of Delirium close the epic song. -------------- Hmm... Back to top

nightspore Group: Members Posts: 4761 Joined: Mar. 2008 Posted: July 27 2010, 22:45 Quote (Incantations @ July 27 2010, 18:55) And I am guessing a certain Jules is not a fan of Yes? Indeed, you get the impression that with him it's not so much "Yes" as "No"! Back to top

Sir Mustapha Group: Musicians Posts: 2802 Joined: April 2003 Posted: July 28 2010, 09:30 Quote (nightspore @ July 27 2010, 09:06) Actually, HR reminds me of Fragile - just joking!   Fragile is AWESOME, and I shall fall into disbelief if Jules dislikes even that one! -------------- Check out http://ferniecanto.com.br for all my music, including my latest albums: Don't Stay in the City, Making Amends and Builders of Worlds. Also check my Bandcamp page: http://ferniecanto.bandcamp.com Back to top

Incantations Group: Members Posts: 157 Joined: May 2010 Posted: July 28 2010, 16:37 Yes, Fragile is the type of album that nobody dislikes,It may not be much of the same for The Yes Album, TFTO, and Relayer, CTTE is much like Fragile in that everyone likes it. -------------- Hmm... Back to top

familyjules Group: Members Posts: 1190 Joined: May 2004 Posted: July 28 2010, 17:15 Quote (Incantations @ July 27 2010, 18:55) And I am guessing a certain Jules is not a fan of Yes? A shame, as Yes is the utter apitamy of not-Mike Oldfield music that is still good (with Genesis close behind ). There's only one thing worse than Yes.  Genesis. Make that two things - I forgot ELP. I like early Mike Oldfield and love Pink Floyd, but most of what gets called prog does very little for me.  It's all technique and flash and bombast and look at how many scales I can play.  Music, for me, is about feeling and soul.  I find precious little of either in most prog.  And don't get me started on the lame-ass lyrics. Jules -------------- I like beer and I like cheese Back to top

Sir Mustapha Group: Musicians Posts: 2802 Joined: April 2003 Posted: July 28 2010, 18:47 Quote (familyjules @ July 28 2010, 17:15) It's all technique and flash and bombast and look at how many scales I can play.  Music, for me, is about feeling and soul. But it's hard to deny the intensity and power of the groove of Roundabout, the chilly nightmarish feel of South Side of the Sky, the gorgeous poppiness of Long Distance Roundabout... yeah, Fragile has "soul" and "feeling" as much as it has technique. Besides, Jon Anderson is a much more spiritual-minded musician than Mike Oldfield, and he REALLY meant what he did in the band. In short: stick to Fragile and forget the rest. -------------- Check out http://ferniecanto.com.br for all my music, including my latest albums: Don't Stay in the City, Making Amends and Builders of Worlds. Also check my Bandcamp page: http://ferniecanto.bandcamp.com Back to top

nightspore Group: Members Posts: 4761 Joined: Mar. 2008 Posted: July 28 2010, 21:31 Quote (Sir Mustapha @ July 28 2010, 18:47) In short: stick to Fragile and forget the rest. I haven't listened to Yes for many a year, but in my opinion their high points were Close to the Edge (particularly "And You and I",which seems to be written about that centrefold image of the mountain-top sea (which inspired my own story "Dreams Never End", incidentally)) and Relayer. Back to top

Incantations Group: Members Posts: 157 Joined: May 2010 Posted: July 29 2010, 03:41 How dare you insult the Genesis! Selling England By the pound is one of the greatest albums of all time, but everything after that was terrible, I must admit. I agree with you on ELP though, they really are a horrible, horrible band. -------------- Hmm... Back to top

nightspore Group: Members Posts: 4761 Joined: Mar. 2008 Posted: July 29 2010, 07:29 Quote (Incantations @ July 29 2010, 03:41) I agree with you on ELP though, they really are a horrible, horrible band. Stepping back from this, one really has to wonder what on earth people's criteria are for assessing pop music. ELP had superb musicianship, clever lyrics, and (given that much of their work was derived from the classics) melodies that are beyond reproach. Granted, the style may not be to one's taste, but "horrible horrible band"?? Back to top

familyjules Group: Members Posts: 1190 Joined: May 2004 Posted: July 29 2010, 18:38 I did listen to Yes and Genesis in my youth.  And I enjoyed those records back then.  Particularly Yes.  But...I dunno...they sound to me like the follies of youth now, whereas Mike and the Floyd still sound great. I appreciate Steve Howe's guitar chops.  I admire Peter Gabriel's voice.  I can sing more songs by both bands than I'd care to admit to.  But I still think their music styles were not only a dead end, but ultimately a deserved dead end. Jules -------------- I like beer and I like cheese Back to top

Incantations Group: Members Posts: 157 Joined: May 2010 Posted: July 30 2010, 06:52 Yes Night that may have been a bit of a misleading description of what I was trying to say, but then again, I wrote that comment at 4 A.M. Looking back at that what I meant was something along the lines of what you said, the band's style isn't my liking. -------------- Hmm... Back to top

Delfín Group: Members Posts: 667 Joined: Nov. 2000 Posted: Sep. 01 2010, 15:24 What is ELP? Are you referring to ELO¿? -------------- The most precious thing I possess, is knowing the answer's yes Back to top

familyjules Group: Members Posts: 1190 Joined: May 2004 Posted: Sep. 01 2010, 20:01 Quote (Delfín @ Sep. 01 2010, 15:24) What is ELP? Are you referring to ELO¿? ELP is Em*rs*n, L*ke & P*lm*r. ELO, on the other hand, are a surprisingly welcome alternative.   Jules -------------- I like beer and I like cheese Back to top

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