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Question: One cd or two? :: Total Votes:39 Poll choices Votes Statistics just one cd album 14  [35.90%] or dobbel -> light and shade (like it is) 25  [64.10%] Guests cannot vote

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Tubularman Group: Awaiting Authorisation Posts: 2304 Joined: June 2004 Posted: Oct. 03 2005, 16:46 I have wondering about this, maybe "Light and Shade" is to short to be dobbel... There are some songs that could been (deleted) or not been taking on the album. I think "Slipstream" is a song to not get used to. Some like it and some not. I never liked "mastermind" and this song remains me of it. This voice and x - files sound i cant stand, really... And like you other fans and they who likes mike seems not to like all the songs on L+S.. But this is not a negative post, i just think it should suite more 1 disk cd album that 2. There are many good songs and lovely pieces. If you only take two songs out you could without problems  have one disk album. I have done that by my self. The one reason is because i dont have lakme and pres de toi on the orginal album, but for second reason is that there are two or three songs im not happy with. My list on the cd is like this Angelique (my own u-myx version) First steps (exerpt version) the gate Blackbird our father (my own u-myx version) Resolutions Surfing Rocky Tears from an angel Ringscape Sunset Lakme Quicksilver (my own u-myx version) Nightshade this make the album one of my favorites album! Maybe more then Tres lunas and the best since tb III. Thank you mike, cant get enough to say that. Tubularman   -------------- Mike Oldfield M i x e s https://soundcloud.com/tubularman Back to top

Moz Group: Musicians Posts: 600 Joined: July 2005 Posted: Oct. 04 2005, 12:55 Not many albums fill up a whole CD though.  Lots of compilations do, but a typical artist album is 40 - 50 minutes long.  Mike's own "Incantations" is 70 mins but then it was originally a double vinyl. I can't answer the question of "one CD or two" very easily - what if Mike had decided to do one CD, but it just happened to be Light CD from this double album? I would have preferred to keep the double CD aspect but have both CDs in the style of Shade. -------------- Twitter: @benbarden Back to top

Tubularman Group: Awaiting Authorisation Posts: 2304 Joined: June 2004 Posted: Oct. 04 2005, 22:47 i dont really see a shade or light shade, they all gives me the same feeling. This album, i think, is more one album sort. I think this type of album is calling for big trouble beacuse of the division parts.  Theres two type of songs; shade and light..    This dont make me sense at all. I dont see surfing as shade at all, not romantic either.. Why not this songs on all one! Just cut out the bad songs and make them b-sides songs type or something... -------------- Mike Oldfield M i x e s https://soundcloud.com/tubularman Back to top

qjamesfloyd Group: Members Posts: 1350 Joined: April 2001 Posted: Oct. 05 2005, 06:34 There is a difference i feel between the feel of Light and Shade, and i also feel that it was right for Mike to make it a double album.It seems to me that Mike maybe releasing a double album to get rid of all the electronic stuff, so he can move onto something new, a new direction.Look on the bright side, he could have released it as 2 albums over 2 years, and how much moaning would that have generated!!! Back to top

Tubularman Group: Awaiting Authorisation Posts: 2304 Joined: June 2004 Posted: Oct. 05 2005, 08:25 yes thats true.. but the thing is that i maybe miss something more on them. I feel that something is missing... maybe a complex end would be good. Now i got Nightshade german promo version and thats much better. Why he took that away i dont know. But gosh! this album is good   -------------- Mike Oldfield M i x e s https://soundcloud.com/tubularman Back to top

Alan D Group: Members Posts: 3670 Joined: Aug. 2004 Posted: Oct. 06 2005, 15:39 I'm trying to think whether I ever heard a double album that wouldn't have been better as a single, and I can't. I suspect that behind every dubious double album there's a pretty good single album trying to get out. I haven't finally settled on what my final listing will be, but at present it goes like this: Angelique First Steps Sunset Resolution Surfing Tears of an Angel Ringscape That's a bit short at around 40 minutes, but I doubt that I'll want to listen to anything else on the CDs very much. Our Father fell by the wayside because although I very much dislike the vocals, it becomes curiously dull if I remove them. But who knows? Things may change. Back to top

Sir Mustapha Group: Musicians Posts: 2802 Joined: April 2003 Posted: Oct. 06 2005, 15:43 Now that I come to think of it, I kind of like the idea of having the two CDs as two sides of one LP. Unfortunately, to me, the almost entire Shade CD is discardable. My single Light + Shade would be kind of like this: Angelique Blackbird First Steps Closer Rocky Sunset Surfing Ringscape Though I'm actually still wonder if Surfing is really necessary... -------------- Check out http://ferniecanto.com.br for all my music, including my latest albums: Don't Stay in the City, Making Amends and Builders of Worlds. Also check my Bandcamp page: http://ferniecanto.bandcamp.com Back to top

The Bell(end) Group: Members Posts: 1051 Joined: July 2005 Posted: Oct. 06 2005, 15:47 oh cool, if we're doing lists, my CD would have all 18 tracks except Romance, Closer, Ringscape and Rocky. It's not that I don't like those tracks, but Romance is my least favourite. Closer is covered by Pres de Toi. Ringscape and Rocky were removed to make sure it was under 80 minutes   -------------- When the night's on fi-ya, do you need love's arms to hold yew? :D Back to top

Alan D Group: Members Posts: 3670 Joined: Aug. 2004 Posted: Oct. 06 2005, 15:50 Quote (Sir Mustapha @ Oct. 06 2005, 20:43) Though I'm actually still wonder if Surfing is really necessary... I'm not sure either, but I think he was really trying for something here, and the track niggles at me in an interesting way that persuades me to stick with it. Also, I'm not sure about Resolution either, so if I'm not careful I won't end up with much! Back to top

Marky Group: Members Posts: 390 Joined: Sep. 2005 Posted: Oct. 08 2005, 09:14 May I suggest that those who would prefer it to be two CDs simply write out a second cheque and mail it to Mike? And add 10% for those extra tracks you were willing to take the album without! Sorted. Back to top

Alan D Group: Members Posts: 3670 Joined: Aug. 2004 Posted: Oct. 10 2005, 16:57 Quote (Alan D @ Oct. 06 2005, 20:39) Angelique First Steps Sunset Resolution Surfing Tears of an Angel Ringscape Thought I'd add a progress report. I've burned a CD with these tracks only, and I'm amazed at the transformation. Together they make a stunningly beautiful 40 minutes of listening, with 'Resolution' providing a bit of beef in the middle to stop the whole thing becoming too sickly-sweet. Listening to them like this, with the dead wood and the dance stuff stripped away, produces a distinct 'Wow!' effect in me. If this were the album as released by Mike, it would be jostling for a place in my favourite 5. Back to top

David Mar Group: Members Posts: 457 Joined: Oct. 2001 Posted: Oct. 31 2005, 05:10 Would it have been a better album if all the best tracks were on a single cd? Back to top

Arjan Group: Members Posts: 1 Joined: Nov. 2005 Posted: Nov. 01 2005, 05:19 Interesting thought but, what are the best tracks? Wouldn't that be a case of personal taste? Besides, releasing it on 2 cd's is more in line with Mike's musicalbrainwave of making an album with in general two different moods, optimistic (Light) and a more darker sound on Shade. And if you still want all 'the best' tracks on 1 cd, you can try making your own "Best of Light + Shade" by putting these tracks on a writable CD (for your own use only, otherwise I would be responsible for you doing something illegal   ) Have fun listening the album Back to top

Inkanta Group: Admins Posts: 1453 Joined: Feb. 2000 Posted: Nov. 01 2005, 19:41 Quote (David Mar @ Oct. 31 2005, 04:10) Would it have been a better album if all the best tracks were on a single cd? Another merger--David et al., feel free to continue your discussion of that in this topic, which Tubularman started nearly a month ago and is pretty much the same one that you started yesterday.   -------------- "No such thing as destiny; only choices exist." From:  Moongarden's "Solaris." Back to top

theweightless Group: Members Posts: 604 Joined: April 2001 Posted: Jan. 03 2006, 11:37 i've done my one cd edition too   there's cook's tune and lakme and pres de toi, leaving slipstream and the gate out     -------------- ASMK Back to top

Cinos Group: Members Posts: 68 Joined: Aug. 2005 Posted: Jan. 10 2006, 16:56 What I might do would be to remove The Gate and Closer. Those are the only tracks that fail to touch me.   Back to top

Sweetpea Group: Members Posts: 1476 Joined: April 2007 Posted: June 01 2007, 14:14 I can't think of any tracks that I dislike, so I'm very happy with this being a double cd. Listening from end to end (to end to end), is a wonderful sound experience, to me. Of course, for smaller portioning, I do have a short playlist. Angelique Blackbird First Steps Rocky Quicksilver Surfing Tears of an Angel Romance Nightshade Lakme -------------- "I'm no physicist, but technically couldn't Mike both be with the horse and be flying through space at the same time? (On account of the earth's orbit around the Sun and all that). So it seems he never had to make the choice after all. I bet he's kicking himself now." - clotty Back to top

Tubularman Group: Awaiting Authorisation Posts: 2304 Joined: June 2004 Posted: June 01 2007, 14:39 Quote (Sweatpea @ June 01 2007, 20:14) I can't think of any tracks that I dislike, so I'm very happy with this being a double cd. Listening from end to end (to end to end), is a wonderful sound experience, to me. Of course, for smaller portioning, I do have a short playlist. Angelique Blackbird First Steps Rocky Quicksilver Surfing Tears of an Angel Romance Nightshade Lakme nice list   -------------- Mike Oldfield M i x e s https://soundcloud.com/tubularman Back to top

Sweetpea Group: Members Posts: 1476 Joined: April 2007 Posted: June 07 2007, 04:54 Thanks. I like your list, too, though I don't know what your mixes sound like. I don't want to sound like a broken record, but I am soooo digging this album.   I also want to mention that while I admire "Ringscape", I didn't include it on my list because I'm not a big fan of 'Blues' style music. -------------- "I'm no physicist, but technically couldn't Mike both be with the horse and be flying through space at the same time? (On account of the earth's orbit around the Sun and all that). So it seems he never had to make the choice after all. I bet he's kicking himself now." - clotty Back to top

onion Group: Members Posts: 104 Joined: July 2005 Posted: June 07 2007, 06:49 This shouldn´t have been an album at all! - any idiot (sorry) could make this trance beat and synth voices on a computer and it has nothing to do with making music at all - at most this type of noise could be used to keep birds away from fields.. This is bar far, the worst ever from MO, but I guess even a genius like MO can be allowed to make a mistake... Mike Oldfield should go public and apologize for making light & shade   Mike -------------- Are soft boiled eggs supposed to make a crunchy noise when you eat them? Back to top

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