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Posted: June 27 2007, 10:59

I have been running both TresLunas and Maestro quite successfully under WINE for some time - not right from the start (and I mean start of MusicVR!;), but I tried all MusicVR updates, providing Colin with occasional feedback, and build WINE from the CVS sources every few months, and eventually it was working.
Only issues I have up to now were the color chooser in the network settings tab, which used to crash MusicVR just by selecting that tab until recently. Now it (kind of) works - can't remember if it was a change by Colin or in WINE that fixed it.
Other is stuttering sound - switching to a new sound files is noticably delayed. Maybe some tweaking in the ALSA/Jack/whatever.. settings might help.
- and you will want to have the NVidia proprietary 3D-accelerated drivers installed (can't speak for ATi).
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Posted: June 27 2007, 14:49

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I have been running both TresLunas and Maestro quite successfully under WINE for some time

I just can't shake off the image of Snowy the owl swimming through a cavern full of cabernet sauvignon.
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Posted: June 28 2007, 19:27

Right, I've downloaded both files, and had a look at them today. Initial reaction: it's more interesting than I had expected, but less interesting than it could potentially have been (because I think the idea as such is very good). Stylistically, it's definitely too new age-y for my taste. Still, it's better than I thought, a few of the things going on there are actually quite nice. Even the music makes more sense in this context.
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Posted: June 29 2007, 06:19

Do these two free versions of Music VR and Maestro still allows to play online and to meet other users?

Regards.
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Posted: June 29 2007, 06:29

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Do these two free versions of Music VR and Maestro still allows to play online and to meet other users?

No one's tried it yet as far as I know, but I'm sure they will. It just needs someone with the free version to arrange an online game, and we can try it. Or I could arrange one at a time when someone with a free version can join me. Any takers?
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Posted: June 29 2007, 06:36

Quote (Alan D @ June 29 2007, 12:29)
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Do these two free versions of Music VR and Maestro still allows to play online and to meet other users?

No one's tried it yet as far as I know, but I'm sure they will. It just needs someone with the free version to arrange an online game, and we can try it. Or I could arrange one at a time when someone with a free version can join me. Any takers?

Yes, I would be interested in that. It would have to be at a time when my wife doesn't need her computer though, because mine isn't connected to the net - and I can never know for sure when that will be, unless past midnight. But if I know about it far enough in advance, I'll try to arrange it.
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Posted: July 01 2007, 14:26

Now, after having spent some time with both games, I must say that they do not excite me.  They are very difficult to maneuver - I seem to get stuck up close to things and can't find my way out...or I get to a place and just keep flying around without anything ever happening.   For instance, I got to what is referred to as the sky skater (or something like that) - what happens?  I must have spent 30 minutes looking for something to do or even getting out of there.  After so long, I just get frustrated and hit escape to end the game. Maybe it's just me, but I need more than that to keep my interest.

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Posted: July 01 2007, 15:16

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I got to what is referred to as the sky skater (or something like that) - what happens?  I must have spent 30 minutes looking for something to do or even getting out of there.

You can find out how to return from the space skater here. And it might give you a few encouraging ideas if you browse for 5 minutes through a couple of the sections of the Tr3s Lunas Guide.

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After so long, I just get frustrated and hit escape to end the game.

If you press F1 instead, the game resets and returns you to the origin. There's no need to endure 30 minutes of tedium!

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Maybe it's just me, but I need more than that to keep my interest.

The space skater is, I think, one of the least interesting journeys in the game. Have you not found your way yet to the two sets of three 'ringhead' stick figures? Some of the journeys on offer there are wonderful, including the magical flight with the firebeings to the island, and of course the famous flight with the owl through the snow cavern. It also sounds as though you haven't tried following Sally's advice to 'collect the rings' - in which case you haven't really got going with the central theme of the game yet. (Sally is the ghostly white figure walking across the plain not far away at the start.)

But it may indeed simply not be your kind of thing. Those of us who are enchanted by it are, after all, in a small minority. But there is an enormous richness in the game, and it does sound as though you haven't found very much of it yet. If you want more than just an interesting journey, try touching the big purple rock that smoulders when you go close. Or shooting at the moon in the branches of the leafless tree. Or touching the piano close to the shore near the space skater portal.
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Posted: July 03 2007, 16:07

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Except for occasional graphical 'blocks' (which may be due to my comp or the settings I selected when installing the game), gameplay was fine.

Then Gary said:
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for me both the games have problems with the graphic's (card is a nvidia geforce 6800) which i had not before.I keep getting "squares" showing in the background.

Well, now I've just installed both 'free' games (1.3c) on my wife's laptop, and they both experience some graphics breakup that sounds very like what Sweatpea and Gary are describing. But 1.3b used to work fine on this laptop. And it worked fine on Gary's laptop too, and still does now he's reinstalled it.

So what's going on? Colin must have made some other changes (apart from removing the registration process) for us all to be experiencing these strange graphic effects (which quite spoil the game, I must say). But why?

[Later addition: Colin's now on the case.]
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Posted: July 03 2007, 17:52

Maestro is the most boring combo-thingy-dingeling for pc gamers..

Example...there is a white horse.....you can´t shoot it! - and you can´t eat it! - you can´t even have sex with it!  :D
Whats the bloody point?  :zzz:  

I will now return to shoot aliens, throw grenades and download internet porn as I´m used to on my pc   :cool:

oooh my god, maestro is boring....if I´m ever on board a flaming plane hurtling down towards the ground...I will put maestro on and fall asleep way before the plane hits the ground...just too sleepy to be afraid of death.... :zzz:  

:laugh:

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Posted: July 03 2007, 18:12

I remember (like it was yesterday) a moment in an English lesson at school. Things were different then, of course, and many teachers adopted attitudes that would be frowned upon today. Anyway, the English teacher (we'll call him Mr X) was an extremely gifted man who had enormous enthusiasm for his subject and could convey it very well. We were working through 'The Pickwick Papers' at the time, and for me, as well as for others, he was planting a seed that would quite literally be a source of inspiration for me for the rest of my life.

Anyway, in this lesson, we were quietly reading a particular passage, and one lad at the back was fooling around. Mr X asked him to get on quietly with his reading (there'd been trouble of the same kind on other days).
'But it's so boring!' the boy moaned. 'Don't you think it's boring?
'No,' Mr X replied, with a pained expression. 'I think it's wonderful. You see, what you haven't understood is that it is you who is boring.'
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Posted: July 04 2007, 05:39

I'm with you, Onion. Both Maestro and Tr3s Lunas are sooo boring they make me feel sick. How can somebody in earth play these games being so sickening??? The graphics are crap (can you believe they don't use any pixel shaders!? :laugh:), the music is crap (though what can you expect from an album like Tr3s Lunas; at least Maestro does not have almost any music :laugh:), and the games themselves are PURE CRAP. You just fly around sorrounded by stupid things that just don't do anything... such a ridiculous game.

Ridiculous game, and ridiculous players. I think the group that play the games must be retarded guys. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!. We, the real game players, must teach them what's all this about. I think the best way is to repeat as much as we can these facts about the games. Repeat with me, Onion:

MusicVR is crap.
MusicVR is stupid.
MusicVR is boring.
MusicVR players are morons.
MusicVR is crap.
MusicVR is stupid.
MusicVR is boring.
MusicVR players are morons.
MusicVR is crap.
MusicVR is stupid.
MusicVR is boring.
MusicVR players are morons.
MusicVR is crap.
MusicVR is stupid.
MusicVR is boring.
MusicVR players are morons.
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Posted: July 04 2007, 06:00

Now that we're all fully aware of Onion's views about Maestro, can I suggest we move on?

There's a possible graphics issue with the free versions, which has been reported by Sweatpea, Gary, and myself - but I don't know how many other people are seeing this, nor indeed whether we're seeing the same problem.

This is the kind of break-up problem I get on my wife's laptop:
here, and another example here.

I'm trying to explain the problem to Colin, but I don't know if we're all talking about the same problem. So if people could comment on whether they're seeing this effect sometimes, it would help.
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Posted: July 04 2007, 08:54

It looks like Colin may have fixed it. I've just tried a new version of Tr3s Lunas on my wife's laptop and there's no trace of the graphics breakup I was seeing before.

The good news is (for those who haven't done this before, and who have this problem) that you won't need to reinstall anything. You'll just need to replace one 1.4MB file in the program folder.

Watch this space.
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Posted: July 04 2007, 08:59

No graphics issue for me, as far as I'm aware.

Collected seven rings for the first time yesterday, btw. Nothing much seems to have happened though, except for some pixie saying something nice to me. :)

(I didn't really have time to keep playing afterwards... something has to happen when you've collected the seven rings, right?)
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Posted: July 04 2007, 09:14

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something has to happen when you've collected the seven rings, right?

I think the nice chat with the fairy is the something. There is a music file in the program that's never used in the game. Maybe Mike was saving it for the end, but changed his mind.

I agree that one would have liked something with a bit more drama at the end - but then, Tr3s Lunas isn't a goal-oriented game, and endings are just beginnings aren't they? The seven-rings journey isn't an end in itself, but just one aspect of something much bigger. Incidentally, there are many different ways of completing the 7 rings quest, and each one offers different delights along the way.
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Posted: July 04 2007, 09:15

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Collected seven rings for the first time yesterday, btw. Nothing much seems to have happened though, except for some pixie saying something nice to me. :)

(I didn't really have time to keep playing afterwards... something has to happen when you've collected the seven rings, right?)

Errr....

Nope, that's it  ;) Apart from putting the kettle on for a nice cup of tea.

But as Alan says, the game is more about exploring than the 7 ring sequence. Look at is as a very long interactive music video.


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Posted: July 04 2007, 09:18

Yes, I'm aware that it's more than the seven rings quest. Just like Twin Peaks is more than the Laura Palmer murder mystery. Great analogy, eh? ;)
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Posted: July 04 2007, 11:48

Thanks Alan for senting me the update file, try it on my pc and it is working perfected...... Now if we could get Colin to show us how to get the bell cursor !!!!!!

Gary ;)
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Posted: July 04 2007, 12:30

NO Trinidad...I don´t think "MusicVR players are morons" -
far from - and you´re way out of line   :/

They have another taste and in MusicVR, I guess seeking for tranquility is the big quest...and that can´t be all bad..

About the graphic - Alan, when I tried the initial free game version I didn´t notice any hick ups in the graphic department...I have a gforce 8800 640 mb graphic card and though is poor graphic work, I didn´t have any problems in MusicVR...it ran very smoothly.

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