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pauken Group: Members Posts: 105 Joined: May 2005 Posted: June 18 2022, 11:29 Quote Your excerpts sound almost exactly like the original recordings ...By casually listening without being told it wasnt a remake, I wouldnt personally automatically know the difference.  Are you SURE it is a remake? Certain yes! It turns out that if you play the same notes and rhythms on the same sorts of instruments at the same tempos and record it properly, then it does come out sounding very similar There are other parts I'm working on that have come out more different as I've changed some of the instrumentation and made tweaks. Experiments that may stick or may not in the end. It started off as a lockdown experiment and now it's become a bit more serious. I'm in not attempting to better the original (not sure that can be done) but trying to give an alternative interpretation of it in my own way and with the help of others. Much like there are multiple interpretations (hundreds in some cases) of the western classical repertoire. That's how I'm thinking about it anyway Back to top

Sentinel_NZ Group: Members Posts: 167 Joined: June 2021 Posted: June 18 2022, 18:12 Quote (pauken @ June 18 2022, 11:29) Quote Your excerpts sound almost exactly like the original recordings ...By casually listening without being told it wasnt a remake, I wouldnt personally automatically know the difference.  Are you SURE it is a remake? Certain yes! It turns out that if you play the same notes and rhythms on the same sorts of instruments at the same tempos and record it properly, then it does come out sounding very similar There are other parts I'm working on that have come out more different as I've changed some of the instrumentation and made tweaks. Experiments that may stick or may not in the end. It started off as a lockdown experiment and now it's become a bit more serious. I'm in not attempting to better the original (not sure that can be done) but trying to give an alternative interpretation of it in my own way and with the help of others. Much like there are multiple interpretations (hundreds in some cases) of the western classical repertoire. That's how I'm thinking about it anyway Have you ever heard of the band Sky (John Williams, Herbie Flowers, etc)?  Anyone who admires Oldfield will appreciate them. They are for me after Oldfield probably the greatest instrumental/progressive composers of all time, possibly even shading Jean-Michel Jarre.  I would be thrilled if someone covered their works!  For example, check out Son of Hotta https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys9ajWh8ha8 The Great Balloon Race https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTOW_JfIBpA Telex from Peru https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36Y5knThyQQ Carillion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTXs-hmzRuU And many others.  The albums Cadmium and The Great Balloon Race contain their most brilliant music but all their albums and singles are absolutely essential.  It's a shame that so many people have covered Mike Oldfield over and over and over, and Jarre and Vangelis, but I dont know one of single person who has covered Sky. Back to top

pauken Group: Members Posts: 105 Joined: May 2005 Posted: June 18 2022, 18:43 Quote Have you ever heard of the band Sky (John Williams, Herbie Flowers, etc)? I do know Sky! I know all of their albums very well, you've got very similar favourites to me. Love Great Balloon Race and Telex from Peru, great! I've met Tristan Fry a few times, he's still playing in various amateur and professional orchestras in London and I've ended up playing percussion with him once or twice Quote It's a shame that so many people have covered Mike Oldfield over and over and over, and Jarre and Vangelis, but I dont know one of single person who has covered Sky. Well it's not a bad idea. But they don't make it easy, some of it's pretty devilishly difficult to play, John Williams is like THE best classical guitarist of the 20th century and he's on nearly all of it... Back to top

Sentinel_NZ Group: Members Posts: 167 Joined: June 2021 Posted: June 18 2022, 19:17 Quote (pauken @ June 18 2022, 18:43) Quote Have you ever heard of the band Sky (John Williams, Herbie Flowers, etc)? I do know Sky! I know all of their albums very well, you've got very similar favourites to me. Love Great Balloon Race and Telex from Peru, great! I've met Tristan Fry a few times, he's still playing in various amateur and professional orchestras in London and I've ended up playing percussion with him once or twice Quote It's a shame that so many people have covered Mike Oldfield over and over and over, and Jarre and Vangelis, but I dont know one of single person who has covered Sky. Well it's not a bad idea. But they don't make it easy, some of it's pretty devilishly difficult to play, John Williams is like THE best classical guitarist of the 20th century and he's on nearly all of it... Wow, you know Tristan Fry and have played alongside him!  That's brilliant - well done!  I have heard that he is still playing to this day, and Herbie Flowers at least until very recently was doing a monthly gig on a Sunday afternoon I believe it was in Brighton.  Although he is over 80 years old now and probably just about ready to retire. I agree much of their music is exceedingly complicated but then, so is Mike Oldfield's.  I don't play any instruments myself (I am a vocalist) but if I had a million dollars I would buy an orchestra or band and pay them to learn the Sky albums and tour them around the world.  In fact, I would have them learn the best of Sky, Oldfield, Jarre and Vangelis and present this music all together into a magnificent show.   Alas, I don't have the means!   Back to top

qcfoetus Group: Members Posts: 109 Joined: April 2013 Posted: June 19 2022, 19:30 Quote (pauken @ June 18 2022, 11:29) Quote Your excerpts sound almost exactly like the original recordings ...By casually listening without being told it wasnt a remake, I wouldnt personally automatically know the difference.  Are you SURE it is a remake? Certain yes! It turns out that if you play the same notes and rhythms on the same sorts of instruments at the same tempos and record it properly, then it does come out sounding very similar There are other parts I'm working on that have come out more different as I've changed some of the instrumentation and made tweaks. Experiments that may stick or may not in the end. It started off as a lockdown experiment and now it's become a bit more serious. I'm in not attempting to better the original (not sure that can be done) but trying to give an alternative interpretation of it in my own way and with the help of others. Much like there are multiple interpretations (hundreds in some cases) of the western classical repertoire. That's how I'm thinking about it anyway Glad to see that you're continuing on this amazing journey! All of your interpretations are different from the original. Some changes are obvious whereas others are very subtle and can probably be best appreciated by Incantations aficionados--i.e. weirdos like me who know all four movements by heart and can hum them back at the drop of a hat!   Back to top

First_Excursion Group: Members Posts: 279 Joined: Aug. 2012 Posted: June 19 2022, 21:25 Quote (pauken @ June 18 2022, 18:43) I've met Tristan Fry a few times, he's still playing in various amateur and professional orchestras in London and I've ended up playing percussion with him once or twice Gulp! Colour me even more impressed. I'm a big fan of Meheco myself, I think he played the start of it on the vibraphone with a violin bow when I saw them in 1987. Back to top

Priabonia Group: Members Posts: 264 Joined: July 2011 Posted: June 20 2022, 06:38 Quote (qcfoetus @ June 20 2022, 00:30) i.e. weirdos like me who know all four movements by heart and can hum them back at the drop of a hat! You're not a true Incantations aficionado until you can hum all four movements backwards and at double speed... -------------- https://www.youtube.com/user/PriaboniaMusic www.soundcloud.com/just-before-dawn Back to top

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