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Holger Group: Members Posts: 1506 Joined: Feb. 2003 Posted: Sep. 24 2004, 07:22 Quote I played it again two nights ago.  I don't think I'm going to become a fan in the same way as yourself, Sir M and some of the others here, but I enjoy it well enough.  Ultimately though I find the 70s albums much more beautiful and warm, so I think they will remain my favourite Mike albums. Not that I'm giving up on Amarok, you understand.... Actually, I feel pretty much like you. Amarok has a special place in my heart for being the album that got me into MO, but over time I've grown more attached to the 70s and some of the 80s albums. Still, I definitely view Amarok as one of the very good albums. Back to top

Wayfarer Group: Members Posts: 308 Joined: June 2002 Posted: Sep. 24 2004, 17:18 Amarok... Don't try to understand it. Just sit down, relax and enjoy it. I can imagine Mike working on it and thinking to himself "One more, man. Only one more and i'll be free" So he just filled up 60 minutes of musical wanderings, just playing around here and there, just enjoying the music. Amarok is nothing but an exercise of freedom. ;-) So enjoy freedom! -- Wayfarer -------------- My homepage - www.thewayfarer.info My search - www.cannotbefound.com My community - www.taurusiv.net My luthier - www.artluthier.com Back to top

Alan D Group: Members Posts: 3670 Joined: Aug. 2004 Posted: Sep. 28 2004, 15:32 It baffled and irritated me when I listened to it on release (and believe me, I badly wanted to enjoy it, so I kept on trying) and I guess it still would baffle and irritate me today. I say 'would': I eventually replaced, almost in its entirety, my complete vinyl collection of Mike Oldfield albums with CDs, but one of the two or three I never got around to replacing was 'Amarok'.... Certainly an album to polarise opinion! Back to top

raven4x4x Group: Members Posts: 1535 Joined: Jan. 2002 Posted: Oct. 06 2004, 05:47 Polarising opinion is one thing that Amarok does expectionally well! If I were you I'd get it again; you might find that your feelings have changed after a long break. It took me quite a while to realise that I truly, truly loved Amarok, so maybe that's what you need. Well, that's what I'd do anyway, I don't know how you felt about it when you had it. -------------- Thank-you for helping us help you help us all. Back to top

Alan D Group: Members Posts: 3670 Joined: Aug. 2004 Posted: Oct. 06 2004, 12:48 OK. There's a copy in the post to me as I write this. If I still don't like it, I'll send you the bill.   I can't say fairer than that. Back to top

EDROFKRAM Group: Members Posts: 66 Joined: July 2004 Posted: Oct. 06 2004, 17:35 could it be also that it is the the word Amarok that alienates this album, being a word that is not of the dictionary. Back to top

Wayfarer Group: Members Posts: 308 Joined: June 2002 Posted: Oct. 06 2004, 18:29 Quote (EDROFKRAM @ Oct. 06 2004, 23:35) could it be also that it is the the word Amarok that alienates this album, being a word that is not of the dictionary. Well, of course it's not on the english dictionary... Have you looked for it in an inuit dictionary? Yeah, there it is. It means  "wolf" -- Wayfarer -------------- My homepage - www.thewayfarer.info My search - www.cannotbefound.com My community - www.taurusiv.net My luthier - www.artluthier.com Back to top

raven4x4x Group: Members Posts: 1535 Joined: Jan. 2002 Posted: Oct. 06 2004, 20:54 Having a non-english name didn't seem to harm Ommadawn!   Wow, someone actually took my advice. I do hope you get to like it at least a bit, but I've bought plenty of music that I don't like. Maybe Amarok just isn't for you. I feel it deserves another go anyway. -------------- Thank-you for helping us help you help us all. Back to top

Tati The Sentinel Group: Members Posts: 3360 Joined: Feb. 2002 Posted: Oct. 07 2004, 11:27 Amarok.Another album with the fungus effect on me. I had to listen about 5 times to get into the spirit of the album,really. -------------- "But it's always the outsider, the black sheep, that becomes the blockbuster." - Mike Oldfield, 2014 "I remember feeling that I'd been judged unfairly and that I was going to prove them wrong." - Peter Davison, 2011 Back to top

hiawatha Group: Members Posts: 2391 Joined: Mar. 2004 Posted: Oct. 07 2004, 13:13 Quote (EDROFKRAM @ Oct. 06 2004, 17:35) could it be also that it is the the word Amarok that alienates this album, being a word that is not of the dictionary. I doubt that "Tubular" was in many people's vocabularies before TB1 came out, even if it is in the dictionary. "Hergest" certainly is not a dictionary word, yet the album with that in the title sold well also. Outside of our little tubular world, you will find many albums with non-dictionary titles such as "Vitalogy" selling quite well. -------------- "In the land of the Dacotahs, Where the Falls of Minnehaha Flash and gleam among the oak-trees, Laugh and leap into the valley." - Song of Hiawatha Back to top

my name is beowulf Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: Oct. 2004 Posted: Oct. 14 2004, 15:16 i dont know if anybody still cares to know, but they (the choir) aresaying "so fa" as in so, fa, (do re me fa so la ti do) -------------- vive amarok Back to top

hiawatha Group: Members Posts: 2391 Joined: Mar. 2004 Posted: Oct. 14 2004, 15:33 I always thought it was "Far so far so far". One of the movements that relates to it, "Africa I", has a section called "Farbuild" (not "Fabuild"). Besides, the "do re me fa so..." notes typically refer to pitches. "Far So..." in Amarok does not connect to these pitches. -------------- "In the land of the Dacotahs, Where the Falls of Minnehaha Flash and gleam among the oak-trees, Laugh and leap into the valley." - Song of Hiawatha Back to top

Alan D Group: Members Posts: 3670 Joined: Aug. 2004 Posted: Oct. 14 2004, 15:51 It's years since I stopped listening to Amarok. But (is it just me?) the funny vocals always sounded to me like slightly disguised swearing. So I thought 'fa-so' was a variant of 'arsehole'. Somewhere else was a thinly disguised 'bugger', I seem to recall; and more of the same kind of thing elsewhere .... Does no one else hear this? Back to top

hiawatha Group: Members Posts: 2391 Joined: Mar. 2004 Posted: Oct. 14 2004, 16:17 I never thought of it this way. Perhaps, though, I'll never hear "Amarok" the same again..... the entire album being nothing but variations on angry insults against Richard Branson. "Torn Torn...." is really "Tom Tom Tom"" (calling Richard a turkey). "Sondela" is really "Son of a...." -------------- "In the land of the Dacotahs, Where the Falls of Minnehaha Flash and gleam among the oak-trees, Laugh and leap into the valley." - Song of Hiawatha Back to top

my name is beowulf Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: Oct. 2004 Posted: Oct. 14 2004, 18:20 i hope you are joking, right? about everything you just said, because its all wrong. especially the sondela part. -------------- vive amarok Back to top

hiawatha Group: Members Posts: 2391 Joined: Mar. 2004 Posted: Oct. 14 2004, 18:38 'Tis pure sarcasm. -------------- "In the land of the Dacotahs, Where the Falls of Minnehaha Flash and gleam among the oak-trees, Laugh and leap into the valley." - Song of Hiawatha Back to top

my name is beowulf Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: Oct. 2004 Posted: Oct. 14 2004, 18:39 all is bon then. -------------- vive amarok Back to top

Alan D Group: Members Posts: 3670 Joined: Aug. 2004 Posted: Oct. 15 2004, 07:09 Quote (hiawatha @ Oct. 14 2004, 23:38) 'Tis pure sarcasm. Mine wasn't though!! Back to top

familyjules Group: Members Posts: 1190 Joined: May 2004 Posted: Oct. 15 2004, 10:58 If you scroll back in this conversation, Alan, you'll see that I was under the same impression.  Sure sounded like "arsehole" to me as well.  Coincidence?  Maybe....maybe not.... Jules -------------- I like beer and I like cheese Back to top

Alan D Group: Members Posts: 3670 Joined: Aug. 2004 Posted: Oct. 15 2004, 13:06 Quote (familyjules @ Oct. 15 2004, 15:58) If you scroll back in this conversation, Alan, you'll see that I was under the same impression.  Sure sounded like "arsehole" to me as well.  Coincidence?  Maybe....maybe not.... Jules Thanks Jules - I thought I'd read the whole thread several times, but somehow I missed that bit. Or forgotten it. Anyway - do you hear 'bugger' as well as me? And - it's years since I played it so I'm hazy, but I have a vague memory of something like 'fuck off' as well. I was never sure if it was me he was talking to...... Back to top

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