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Ugo Group: Members Posts: 5495 Joined: April 2000 Posted: Sep. 01 2010, 18:31 Quote (milamber @ Aug. 29 2010, 15:54) Thats more or less what I thought you meant but the problem is (11:59/13:38) the slower beat allows much more expression but the faster one gives more of an impact back into the slower heavy part that comes next but you have to play the fast one as straight time with less fills what to do what to do? Do it fast. And do all the fills you want, but beware of the risk of going off-beat, which is high. P.S. If you have the old original mix of HR somewhere (not the so-called "1974 original mix" on the new version - that's not the original 1974 mix, as it's been re-touched!! ), listen for the percussive "beat" done by the nutcracker in that section. That is the beat you should re-interpret - not copy or re-do, but re-interpret. -------------- Ugo C. - a devoted Amarokian Back to top

larstangmark Group: Members Posts: 1759 Joined: Mar. 2005 Posted: Sep. 01 2010, 19:11 Quote (Ugo @ Aug. 28 2010, 05:19) TB Part 1 also sounds "drumless", yet drums were added to it by Morris Pert during the Exposed shows, and they don't sound out of place at all - at least to me. I think it's hard to tell if I find a rocked-up HR such an impossible idea because it didn't get the "groop"-makeover or if it didn't get the makover because it sounded like an impossible idea. I try to imagine the HR opening theme with a drumbeat and Mike Howlett-style funky basslines...I don't know...what do you think? Can you hear it? -------------- "There are twelve people in the world, the rest are paste" Mark E Smith Back to top

Milamber Group: Musicians Posts: 2263 Joined: Feb. 2010 Posted: Sep. 01 2010, 21:07 Quote (Ugo @ Sep. 02 2010, 08:31) Quote (milamber @ Aug. 29 2010, 15:54) Thats more or less what I thought you meant but the problem is (11:59/13:38) the slower beat allows much more expression but the faster one gives more of an impact back into the slower heavy part that comes next but you have to play the fast one as straight time with less fills what to do what to do? Do it fast. And do all the fills you want, but beware of the risk of going off-beat, which is high. P.S. If you have the old original mix of HR somewhere (not the so-called "1974 original mix" on the new version - that's not the original 1974 mix, as it's been re-touched!! ), listen for the percussive "beat" done by the nutcracker in that section. That is the beat you should re-interpret - not copy or re-do, but re-interpret. My old cd copy of HR was bought around 1986-87 is this the version you mean. HR   CDV 2013.     1984. Back to top

Milamber Group: Musicians Posts: 2263 Joined: Feb. 2010 Posted: Sep. 01 2010, 21:12 Quote (larstangmark @ Sep. 02 2010, 09:11) I try to imagine the HR opening theme with a drumbeat and Mike Howlett-style funky basslines...I don't know...what do you think? Can you hear it? Imagine Primus doing a cover of HR. Mike had an Irish Wolfhound, He stroked it all the time Back to top

Milamber Group: Musicians Posts: 2263 Joined: Feb. 2010 Posted: Sep. 01 2010, 21:28 Quote (Syd B @ Sep. 02 2010, 03:45) Downloading now, will leave comments when I've listened to it. And btw I'm back now, I've missed you guys Now let me hit that smiley icon 99 times       . Sorry fours the limit you get the idea. That means 20 people have downloaded it, with only a few responses you get the idea its not to bad but not to good either. I'm sure I can rely on your honesty and welcome back. Just in time too ,Sunday I will start to rework it. HR pt 2 Prog Mix Back to top

camarok Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: Jan. 2009 Posted: Sep. 01 2010, 21:58 Nice job Dude. -------------- What is understood. Need not be discussed. Back to top

Ugo Group: Members Posts: 5495 Joined: April 2000 Posted: Sep. 02 2010, 07:12 Quote (milamber @ Sep. 02 2010, 03:07) My old cd copy of HR was bought around 1986-87 is this the version you mean. HR   CDV 2013.     1984. No. All the old CD copies of HR have Mike's Boxed remix. What I mean is the original original 1974 vinyl LP mix, the one commonly available on bootlegs - the one that Martin Bartosik (among others) made a restoring of, to be clearer. It is different from the "Original 1974 stereo mix" as featured on disc 2 of the 2010 release: some parts of the original 1974 vinyl LP mix (including the nutcracker beat) were omitted from the 2010 release, in spite of the fact that most of this mix is actually the same as the vinyl mix (the tracks on the 2010 release were indeed taken from the vinyl album). -------------- Ugo C. - a devoted Amarokian Back to top

Milamber Group: Musicians Posts: 2263 Joined: Feb. 2010 Posted: Sep. 02 2010, 07:22 Thanks mate i'll have a look around for it Back to top

ex member 892 Group: Members Posts: 827 Joined: July 2008 Posted: Sep. 02 2010, 14:17 ARRRRGGHHHHH now it's telling me the servers are overloaded and I can't download it right now. I fucking HATE RapidShare! *Calms down* Thanks for the welcome back milamber. I'll download the mix when I get the chance and leave my comments. Back to top

Milamber Group: Musicians Posts: 2263 Joined: Feb. 2010 Posted: Oct. 23 2010, 19:34 Just a new link thats all. HR part 2 Prog Mix Will get back to this someday Back to top

wiga Group: Members Posts: 2113 Joined: Sep. 2008 Posted: Oct. 25 2010, 04:02 Is it supposed to go - bwaw-bwaw-bwaw-bwaw-bwaw... at the start there? -------------- Barn's burnt down - now I can see the moon. Back to top

Milamber Group: Musicians Posts: 2263 Joined: Feb. 2010 Posted: Oct. 25 2010, 04:34 Quote (wiga @ Oct. 25 2010, 18:02) Is it supposed to go - bwaw-bwaw-bwaw-bwaw-bwaw... at the start there? Now that's producing     Back to top

wiga Group: Members Posts: 2113 Joined: Sep. 2008 Posted: Oct. 25 2010, 05:28 The manic last section is woooo hooooo!! -------------- Barn's burnt down - now I can see the moon. Back to top

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