MusicallyInspired
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Posted: April 15 2005, 18:37 |
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| Quote | | It doesn't. And it's not a question of disqualifying the album - it's the intention behind those cheap tricks. Whatever the intention is, it sounds amateurish. Very amateurish. Let's see, I'm fairly sure many bands when listening to, I dunno, Tommy, for the first time, say "Wow, look at how the songs are all meshed together, and there are little pieces that appear in lots of tracks! Why don't we try doing that?", and end up producing something very clumsy and childish in result. Discovery isn't clumsi or childish, but that quotation sounds like someone who just listened to Platinum and decided to try the trick. And it was Mike himself who did those two albums, you see. It's like he was so absorbed by the idea of pasting melodies in two tracks or more, he felt the need to do that on Discovery, because that's what he's supposed to do. |
No, I disagree. I think the tracks meld quite well together. I've always admired Discovery for that. And it's why I like the album over all the other song-albums he made.
| Quote | | You know, I never said I hated the album because of that, or that I thought it was a bad pop album. I just said I didn't give a damn about that quotation trick. It sounds amateurish. You know, Discovery already makes sense, and has a good structure already, and even the main chord sequence of To France reappears in Talk About Your Life. That was perfect, but there had to be the To France melody there to make the "cohesion" show. Why? |
Why not?
| Quote | | Also, I don't buy that thing of "ruining" the possibility of making Discovery a normal pop album by putting The Lake there. Sheesh, it's tacked on right at the end, and with an "(instrumental)" label next to it. That's saying "hey, the pop ends HERE. If you can't stand instrumental music, lift the needle before it reaches The Lake. BUT YOU CAN STILL BUY IT! THERE ARE SEVEN POP TUNES BEFORE IT THAT YOU CAN LISTEN!" |
Are you saying that he was doing it to appeal to a broader audience, but put the "(instrumental)" label on The Lake as a warning? You know it could also be that Virgin or someone other than Mike decided to do that, which would completely change the outlook of the whole situation. I don't think he was trying to appeal to others at all. IMO, he was being forced to write songs and he did, but he did it with his own style and melded all the songs together. I don't even consider most of them 'songs', really. I see them as pieces of a long instrumental with lyrics inserted at certain areas. Poison Arrows is a good example...it starts out quiet and slower paced while Barry is singing some lyrics and as it builds and builds he stops singing and Mike goes on a big guitar solo the first time the song is actually becomes loud, and then it goes back to his singing again. It sounds more (to me) like the structure of an instrumental than an actual song. And other songs on the album reflect this idea to me, as well. But I don't think that was trying to appeal to anybody with the album. He's as he always was and I still believe this; He doesn't care what anyone thinks of his music and he makes it for himself.
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