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Olivier Group: Super Admins Posts: 1865 Joined: Nov. 1999 Posted: July 12 2011, 20:25 I may decide to properly learn electric guitar. I already play the piano, and the basics of classical guitar. I want to play like Pink Floyd, Chris Rea, and Fleetwood Mac, although the plectrum scares me (again, piano + a bit of classical guitar, you touch the thing directly). Probably not in a band. Should I get a cheap guitar first and once I kind of know, I can test for one that suits me at the shop? Or could I directly buy a nice one, would that make the learning experience better? And what effects too? I wouldn't recommend a cheap keyboard to learn the piano, for example. But it's not the same thing, guitars have more personality and buying a nice one when you don't know how to play may not make sense? Back to top

nightspore Group: Members Posts: 4761 Joined: Mar. 2008 Posted: July 12 2011, 21:40 Snakeoil over at the H may be able to help   Back to top

Milamber Group: Musicians Posts: 2263 Joined: Feb. 2010 Posted: July 12 2011, 22:06 You don't get much for 5 bucks NS   I would suggest a mid range price instrument for any beginner . Those cheap Gits won't stay in tune, Drums are the same ...One reason I went electric. Back to top

Scatterplot Group: Members Posts: 1980 Joined: Dec. 2007 Posted: July 13 2011, 01:49 You can get a Squire-Fender strat for less than $200,they are not bad. Strats are fairly easy to play compared to a lot of others. Also get some Jim Dunlop nylon picks of varying thicknesses, they last practically forever. As far as amplification, are you going to use a stand alone amp, home stereo or your PC? If you want a cheaper version of Gibson guitars, check Epiphone's products. -------------- We raise our voices in the night Crying to heaven And will our voices be heard Or will they break Like the wind Back to top

Scatterplot Group: Members Posts: 1980 Joined: Dec. 2007 Posted: July 13 2011, 01:52 If you want a decent amp with built in effects look at Peavey's Vyper. -------------- We raise our voices in the night Crying to heaven And will our voices be heard Or will they break Like the wind Back to top

ex member 892 Group: Members Posts: 827 Joined: July 2008 Posted: July 13 2011, 12:17 I would recommend starting out with a inexpensive but NOT cheap guitar, somewhere in the $250-$400 (street price) range, as a super-cheap guitar can be so low-quality that it turns you off immediately. I personally have had nothing but bad experiences with Squire guitars, but I may have just had bad luck. This (Epiphone Les Paul 100) was my first electric, and I still own it today. Great beginner guitar. Or if you're looking to get something a bit more expensive, I know this (Epiphone G-400) is a good guitar. But you mentioned Pink Floyd, so maybe a Squire would be the way to go for you (just don't get one of the super-cheap ones, they will NOT stay in tune). For $500 you can get a Fender, btw. It's hard to recommend guitars to other people, as everybody is different. Hope this helps. Back to top

Ugo Group: Members Posts: 5495 Joined: April 2000 Posted: July 13 2011, 19:57 @ Olivier: if you like Fenders, get a Mexican Fender Strat. They don't cost much (pretty much something like $500-600) and they are excellent. Otherwise, it's just your choice. Squiers are also very good. Effects? None at all. Just get a good amp. Again, something like a Fender 75. -------------- Ugo C. - a devoted Amarokian Back to top

Olivier Group: Super Admins Posts: 1865 Joined: Nov. 1999 Posted: July 13 2011, 22:32 Quote (Ugo @ July 13 2011, 19:57) @ Olivier: if you like Fenders, get a Mexican Fender Strat. They don't cost much (pretty much something like $500-600) and they are excellent. Otherwise, it's just your choice. Squiers are also very good. Effects? None at all. Just get a good amp. Again, something like a Fender 75. Do they come in nice cases? Made me think of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBmwUTjAYes Also made me think of Mexican coke that is available here in California: made with sugar cane instead of corn syrup. Yummy. And it comes in the classic glass bottle too. Thanks for the tips! Back to top

Milamber Group: Musicians Posts: 2263 Joined: Feb. 2010 Posted: July 14 2011, 02:13 Watched a Doco on Coke awhile ago, apparently North America is the only place Coke is not made in Glass bottles.. B.o.t  I remember a guitarist I preformed with had one of those Squires and it was just horrible....It never stayed in tune.. He later switched to an Ovation, and used various stomp pedals to good effect. Pun Intended Back to top

Scatterplot Group: Members Posts: 1980 Joined: Dec. 2007 Posted: July 16 2011, 15:08 I had a Squire strat for 3-4 years before buying an American strat. No difference in sound, feel or looks at all(except the headstock). Maybe the quality has suffered over the years. Mine was so perfect you could have let Eric Clapton use it to make an album and no one would know the difference. I do miss that guitar. Bought it for $179 new. Far superior to mexicans. I had two I kept for a week, they were piss poor. -------------- We raise our voices in the night Crying to heaven And will our voices be heard Or will they break Like the wind Back to top

Philippe Tavares Group: Members Posts: 1612 Joined: Feb. 2005 Posted: July 16 2011, 15:38 Quote (Milamber @ July 14 2011, 08:13) Watched a Doco on Coke awhile ago, apparently North America is the only place Coke is not made in Glass bottles.. B.o.t  I remember a guitarist I preformed with had one of those Squires and it was just horrible....It never stayed in tune.. He later switched to an Ovation, and used various stomp pedals to good effect. Pun Intended sorry i'm off topic but about your new avatar Cameron ?! I 've already seen this animated gif on the net ! ..if you make a search you will find a big error in it .Can you find it ? Back to top

HR lover Group: Members Posts: 548 Joined: Sep. 2010 Posted: July 16 2011, 17:48 I found it! the guy tries to slap with his right hand but after his hand went through the computer it's his left hand that's slapping him xD. -------------- Neither a borrower nor a lender be, For loan oft loses both itself and friend, And borrowing dulls the edge of husbandry. Back to top

Philippe Tavares Group: Members Posts: 1612 Joined: Feb. 2005 Posted: July 16 2011, 18:40 You won ! Back to top

nightspore Group: Members Posts: 4761 Joined: Mar. 2008 Posted: July 17 2011, 01:00 Quote (Tubular Tos @ July 16 2011, 15:38) Pun Intended sorry i'm off topic but about your new avatar Cameron ?! I 've already seen this animated gif on the net ! ..if you make a search you will find a big error in it .Can you find it ?[/quote] They're both hitting with their right hands, but a left hand comes out.   I'm left-handed, so I'm very conscious of that sort of thing! Back to top

HR lover Group: Members Posts: 548 Joined: Sep. 2010 Posted: July 17 2011, 08:27 I'm also left-handed. -------------- Neither a borrower nor a lender be, For loan oft loses both itself and friend, And borrowing dulls the edge of husbandry. Back to top

Milamber Group: Musicians Posts: 2263 Joined: Feb. 2010 Posted: July 17 2011, 18:43 Left handed people used to be burned at the stake for being witches   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrzMhU_4m-g&feature=related     Back to top

nightspore Group: Members Posts: 4761 Joined: Mar. 2008 Posted: July 17 2011, 21:57 Quote (Milamber @ July 17 2011, 18:43) Left handed people used to be burned at the stake for being witches   ]     When I was growing up there was still prejudice against "southpaws" (as Cooper Roy would probably say   ) ... I was made to write with my right hand, for example. Back to top

ex member 892 Group: Members Posts: 827 Joined: July 2008 Posted: July 18 2011, 08:04 And to be fair, black magic is known as the "Left hand path". And apparently left-handed people are more creative on average than right-handed people. Back to top

ex member 892 Group: Members Posts: 827 Joined: July 2008 Posted: July 18 2011, 08:05 Quote (nightspore @ July 17 2011, 21:57) ... I was made to write with my right hand, for example. Wow. So are you ambidextrous now because of that? Back to top

nightspore Group: Members Posts: 4761 Joined: Mar. 2008 Posted: July 18 2011, 09:43 Quote (Syd B @ July 18 2011, 08:05) Quote (nightspore @ July 17 2011, 21:57) ... I was made to write with my right hand, for example. Wow. So are you ambidextrous now because of that? With some things, Syd. My natural inclination with any new skill is to use my left. Back to top

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